NAM: neural amp modeler

digitalscream

hollywoodrox said:

digitalscream said:

Imagine if someone builds some hardware around this...

Holy raspberry pi project 

Indeed. I do wonder what kind of latency you'd get on a Pi 4 with this, an LV2 host and an average audio interface. Add a small screen, and you could easily build a high-quality profiler for less than £200 with some DIY involved.

Of course, that assumes that you could get a Pi 4.

hollywoodrox

digitalscream said:

hollywoodrox said:

digitalscream said:

Imagine if someone builds some hardware around this...

Holy raspberry pi project 

Indeed. I do wonder what kind of latency you'd get on a Pi 4 with this, an LV2 host and an average audio interface. Add a small screen, and you could easily build a high-quality profiler for less than £200 with some DIY involved.

Of course, that assumes that you could get a Pi 4.

Yes I’ve not looked at the software so wasn’t sure. If a pi would run it  but there does seem to be a scarcity at the moment which has made prices rise , even older pi’s that I used are significantly more expensive now 

digitalscream

hollywoodrox said:

digitalscream said:

hollywoodrox said:

digitalscream said:

Imagine if someone builds some hardware around this...

Holy raspberry pi project 

Indeed. I do wonder what kind of latency you'd get on a Pi 4 with this, an LV2 host and an average audio interface. Add a small screen, and you could easily build a high-quality profiler for less than £200 with some DIY involved.

Of course, that assumes that you could get a Pi 4.

Yes I’ve not looked at the software so wasn’t sure. If a pi would run it  but there does seem to be a scarcity at the moment which has made prices rise , even older pi’s that I used are significantly more expensive now 

CPC are currently expecting more stock on 13th November 2023.

FFS!

There are, of course, alternatives. I'd imagine that a Rock Pi 4B would do the job quite well, albeit more expensive than a Raspberry Pi.

goldtop

Isn't there a Korg synth that's based on a Pi? So there should be enough processing power for an amp sim.

Vintage65

hollywoodrox

goldtop said:

Isn't there a Korg synth that's based on a Pi? So there should be enough processing power for an amp sim.

There was a Korg Synth for the Nintendo DS!

Flink_Poyd

I stumbled across this today. It's good that it's a standalone plugin as well as running it through a  DAW. Hopefully this keeps getting developed  and as more captures get uploaded it should be a good alternative for those of us who don't use/can't justify spending too much on something like a Kemper or Quad Cortex. 

PolarityMan

I keep saying this but  tbh I dont think the tech itself is a differentiator anymore and the key is going to be ecosystem of quality captures. Right now kemper has that sewn up but if anyone can either get critical mass on their own format, or even better playback existing kemper profiles in software that that will totally break kempers dominance in the market. 

digitalscream

PolarityMan said:

I keep saying this but  tbh I dont think the tech itself is a differentiator anymore and the key is going to be ecosystem of quality captures. Right now kemper has that sewn up but if anyone can either get critical mass on their own format, or even better playback existing kemper profiles in software that that will totally break kempers dominance in the market. 

The tech itself is out of the bag, but the fact that this one is open source makes it a massive change in the market - when anyone can chuck together a system to do it with a basic computer and audio interface, free of any proprietary constraints...I can easily imagine it getting to the point where there are implementation and format standards, and then the only differentiators will be hardware quality and ergonomic innovations.

As soon as I get some spare time (likely this summer) I'm going to grab a couple of relatively cheap SBCs and see if I can put something together with a touchscreen that'll run this. If it can...interesting things may happen.

Vintage65

New website, includes amp model downloads.

https://neuralampmodeler.com/

Flink_Poyd

Theres a very active Facebook group with captures being uploaded almost every day.

https://www.facebook.com/groups/5669559883092788/

mudslide73

Well, I've just had a play with this and I'm very impressed. I've only used a couple of Celestion IRs (Blue 2x12 and G12H30 4x12) but the mid/high gain amps (Splawn and Ceriatone King Kong) sound great and are very immediate - with some tweaking and the right IRs I think it'll be stellar. In short, I like it very much.

Vintage65

mudslide73 said:

Well, I've just had a play with this and I'm very impressed. I've only used a couple of Celestion IRs (Blue 2x12 and G12H30 4x12) but the mid/high gain amps (Splawn and Ceriatone King Kong) sound great and are very immediate - with some tweaking and the right IRs I think it'll be stellar. In short, I like it very much.

There are some blind tests here:  https://gearspace.com/board/music-computers/1401607-nam-neural-amp-modeler.html

digitalscream

When I get some spare time, I'm considering using it to model Nembrini's ADA MP-1 plugin on some of my favourite settings. The goal would be to see if I can get it running on a Pi 4 - which might make it possible to build a really cool, lightweight gigging unit.

Apparently it's quite CPU-heavy at the moment, but they're making some great progress on that front.

hollywoodrox

The download page looked a bit scary . I found this bit though ,I’m guessing say on my Mac this just installs like any other program. If so will be interested in giving it a try .

Not sure how you will import various models into it . Will check out a YouTube video in a minute . I’m sure Leon Todd has done one 

mudslide73

The quality is there imo. I've only had about 40 mins on it tonight and I'm a fan. I'm seriously thinking about installing it on my little Lenovo laptop to try with the band. 

Vintage65

I've been experimenting with TH-U cabs instead of using IR's and I think I may be making some progress regarding the overall sound.

Vintage65

Latest setup: TH-U pedals > NAM > TH-U Cab & FX

How is everybody else using it?

mudslide73

Guitar > interface > NAM > Celestion IR  > reverb and delay added as inserts in Reaper.

I'm sure pedals will be great (I previously tried this with LePou amps with much success) but I'm still evaluating all the NAM amps. I'm keeping the IR constant (G12H30 4x12) atm so I can make sense of what's changing.

I used it to redo some rhythm parts on a live recording of ours (Live and Dangerous style) with a Friedman model. The results were very favourable. It just needed a bit of Pultec and reverb to make it not stand out in the mix. It feels more amp like than Helix Native imo, just more present, I think.

PolarityMan

I think helix native doesnt do it any favours on it's default output level. Its consistently quieter than basically everything else unless you crank the output a little. I watched a video where a guy was able to tone match arcehtype: gojira pretty well with native.