The F1 thread

Majorscale

chillidoggy said:

http://www.channel4.com/4viewers/editors-blog/formula-1-2018-season-confirmed-on-channel-4

F1 will be on C4 same as last year.

But it wont be next year... highlights only apparently

chillidoggy

Majorscale said:

chillidoggy said:

http://www.channel4.com/4viewers/editors-blog/formula-1-2018-season-confirmed-on-channel-4

F1 will be on C4 same as last year.

But it wont be next year... highlights only apparently

Ah, OK. That will be crunch time, I reckon.

boogieman

Majorscale said:

chillidoggy said:

http://www.channel4.com/4viewers/editors-blog/formula-1-2018-season-confirmed-on-channel-4

F1 will be on C4 same as last year.

But it wont be next year... highlights only apparently

I didn’t think there were even highlights on C4 after this year? Thought it was Sky (or paid for) coverage only from there on? 

not_the_dj

Grrrr, Steve Jones again.

bobblehat

boogieman said:

Majorscale said:

chillidoggy said:

http://www.channel4.com/4viewers/editors-blog/formula-1-2018-season-confirmed-on-channel-4

F1 will be on C4 same as last year.

But it wont be next year... highlights only apparently

I didn’t think there were even highlights on C4 after this year? Thought it was Sky (or paid for) coverage only from there on? 

Wouldn't be surprised if that situation changes.I think Sky already proves that the vast majority of Fans are not willing to pay to watch F1 live. With Sky viewing figures of just around 600k per race I cant see that being sustainable.
How they intend to deliver the pay per view will also have a big impact. Personally I have no interest in watching it on a laptop/tablet etc. I would imagine its likely to be available through an additional  Amazon Prime channel but that would require a Prime subscription and an additional F1 subscription which would make it expensive.  

stickyfiddle

bobblehat said:

boogieman said:

Majorscale said:

chillidoggy said:

http://www.channel4.com/4viewers/editors-blog/formula-1-2018-season-confirmed-on-channel-4

F1 will be on C4 same as last year.

But it wont be next year... highlights only apparently

I didn’t think there were even highlights on C4 after this year? Thought it was Sky (or paid for) coverage only from there on? 

Wouldn't be surprised if that situation changes.I think Sky already proves that the vast majority of Fans are not willing to pay to watch F1 live. With Sky viewing figures of just around 600k per race I cant see that being sustainable.
How they intend to deliver the pay per view will also have a big impact. Personally I have no interest in watching it on a laptop/tablet etc. I would imagine its likely to be available through an additional  Amazon Prime channel but that would require a Prime subscription and an additional F1 subscription which would make it expensive.  

The plan is to have available through smart TVs, Apple TV, Amazon Fire etc.

Sky haven’t got massive audiences because you can’t just pay for the F1 channel, you have to get a complete Sky package for £50 a month, which is way more money than this standalone thing.

chillidoggy

And therein lies the problem - you end up paying for a package load of shite you don't want. I'd be happy to pay to watch specific channels, though. I'd go maybe £150 a year for the package.

Fretwired

stickyfiddle said:

bobblehat said:

boogieman said:

Majorscale said:

chillidoggy said:

http://www.channel4.com/4viewers/editors-blog/formula-1-2018-season-confirmed-on-channel-4

F1 will be on C4 same as last year.

But it wont be next year... highlights only apparently

I didn’t think there were even highlights on C4 after this year? Thought it was Sky (or paid for) coverage only from there on? 

Wouldn't be surprised if that situation changes.I think Sky already proves that the vast majority of Fans are not willing to pay to watch F1 live. With Sky viewing figures of just around 600k per race I cant see that being sustainable.
How they intend to deliver the pay per view will also have a big impact. Personally I have no interest in watching it on a laptop/tablet etc. I would imagine its likely to be available through an additional  Amazon Prime channel but that would require a Prime subscription and an additional F1 subscription which would make it expensive.  

The plan is to have available through smart TVs, Apple TV, Amazon Fire etc.

Sky haven’t got massive audiences because you can’t just pay for the F1 channel, you have to get a complete Sky package for £50 a month, which is way more money than this standalone thing.

You can just watch the race via TV Now for about £6.

boogieman

Fretwired said:

stickyfiddle said:

bobblehat said:

boogieman said:

Majorscale said:

chillidoggy said:

http://www.channel4.com/4viewers/editors-blog/formula-1-2018-season-confirmed-on-channel-4

F1 will be on C4 same as last year.

But it wont be next year... highlights only apparently

I didn’t think there were even highlights on C4 after this year? Thought it was Sky (or paid for) coverage only from there on? 

Wouldn't be surprised if that situation changes.I think Sky already proves that the vast majority of Fans are not willing to pay to watch F1 live. With Sky viewing figures of just around 600k per race I cant see that being sustainable.
How they intend to deliver the pay per view will also have a big impact. Personally I have no interest in watching it on a laptop/tablet etc. I would imagine its likely to be available through an additional  Amazon Prime channel but that would require a Prime subscription and an additional F1 subscription which would make it expensive.  

The plan is to have available through smart TVs, Apple TV, Amazon Fire etc.

Sky haven’t got massive audiences because you can’t just pay for the F1 channel, you have to get a complete Sky package for £50 a month, which is way more money than this standalone thing.

You can just watch the race via TV Now for about £6.

£8 per race or £35 per month. 

chillidoggy

Here we go, boys -

https://www.racefans.net/2018/03/02/sky-responds-f1-tv-slashing-price-f1-channel-stream/

Fretwired

boogieman said:

Fretwired said:

stickyfiddle said:

bobblehat said:

boogieman said:

Majorscale said:

chillidoggy said:

http://www.channel4.com/4viewers/editors-blog/formula-1-2018-season-confirmed-on-channel-4

F1 will be on C4 same as last year.

But it wont be next year... highlights only apparently

I didn’t think there were even highlights on C4 after this year? Thought it was Sky (or paid for) coverage only from there on? 

Wouldn't be surprised if that situation changes.I think Sky already proves that the vast majority of Fans are not willing to pay to watch F1 live. With Sky viewing figures of just around 600k per race I cant see that being sustainable.
How they intend to deliver the pay per view will also have a big impact. Personally I have no interest in watching it on a laptop/tablet etc. I would imagine its likely to be available through an additional  Amazon Prime channel but that would require a Prime subscription and an additional F1 subscription which would make it expensive.  

The plan is to have available through smart TVs, Apple TV, Amazon Fire etc.

Sky haven’t got massive audiences because you can’t just pay for the F1 channel, you have to get a complete Sky package for £50 a month, which is way more money than this standalone thing.

You can just watch the race via TV Now for about £6.

£8 per race or £35 per month. 

Prices have gone up. Not what I paid. It was £10.99 for a week pass and £6.99 for a day pass although I got mine for £6.00 on a deal.

chillidoggy

And for those countries that don't have an F1 deal wrapped up it will be around £78 a year, tops. Once again, we're getting shafted.

sinbaadi

I hear that Liberty Media have come up with a dynamic new way to make watching F1 as excitingly exclusive as possible.  They will, for a fee, allow their audience to come, physically, to a venue or venues and watch F1 racing "in the flesh".  No more screens, no more presenters rattling off the same tired questions to bored drivers, no more broadcasts.  It's a really effective way to control illegal streams because there won't be any cameras of any kind at the venues.

Fretwired

chillidoggy said:

And for those countries that don't have an F1 deal wrapped up it will be around £78 a year, tops. Once again, we're getting shafted.

But Sky has the cost of making the programme. I bet they would be happy to take the F1 Liberty feed, cut their costs by binning their commentators and film crew, reduce the the fee and therefore pull in more punters and probably make more profit.

chillidoggy

Fretwired said:

chillidoggy said:

And for those countries that don't have an F1 deal wrapped up it will be around £78 a year, tops. Once again, we're getting shafted.

But Sky has the cost of making the programme. I bet they would be happy to take the F1 Liberty feed, cut their costs by binning their commentators and film crew, reduce the the fee and therefore pull in more punters and probably make more profit.

Yes, but want exactly do they make? Apart from the pre-race bullshit, every live race feed I’ve ever seen is the same, so presumably everyone across the globe sees the same thing from the same company. Unless I’m missing something here, surely the main costs are the broadcasting rights, and the mouth-on-a-stick talking-head presenters?

TimmyO

chillidoggy said:

Here we go, boys -

https://www.racefans.net/2018/03/02/sky-responds-f1-tv-slashing-price-f1-channel-stream/

the UK seems to be an odd exception to this list

https://www.racefans.net/2018/02/28/list-countries-f1-tv-pro-will-available-confirmed/

Fretwired

chillidoggy said:

Fretwired said:

chillidoggy said:

And for those countries that don't have an F1 deal wrapped up it will be around £78 a year, tops. Once again, we're getting shafted.

But Sky has the cost of making the programme. I bet they would be happy to take the F1 Liberty feed, cut their costs by binning their commentators and film crew, reduce the the fee and therefore pull in more punters and probably make more profit.

Yes, but want exactly do they make? Apart from the pre-race bullshit, every live race feed I’ve ever seen is the same, so presumably everyone across the globe sees the same thing from the same company. Unless I’m missing something here, surely the main costs are the broadcasting rights, and the mouth-on-a-stick talking-head presenters?

That costs a fortune to make. Brundle is on £2 million per annum ... add the others plus a film crew, travel, all the back room staff ..

chillidoggy

Fretwired said:

chillidoggy said:

Fretwired said:

chillidoggy said:

And for those countries that don't have an F1 deal wrapped up it will be around £78 a year, tops. Once again, we're getting shafted.

But Sky has the cost of making the programme. I bet they would be happy to take the F1 Liberty feed, cut their costs by binning their commentators and film crew, reduce the the fee and therefore pull in more punters and probably make more profit.

Yes, but want exactly do they make? Apart from the pre-race bullshit, every live race feed I’ve ever seen is the same, so presumably everyone across the globe sees the same thing from the same company. Unless I’m missing something here, surely the main costs are the broadcasting rights, and the mouth-on-a-stick talking-head presenters?

That costs a fortune to make. Brundle is on £2 million per annum ... add the others plus a film crew, travel, all the back room staff ..

What d’you reckon it costs in total? Can’t be more than £5 million, surely? Be interesting to know.

Garthy

chillidoggy said:

Fretwired said:

chillidoggy said:

Fretwired said:

chillidoggy said:

And for those countries that don't have an F1 deal wrapped up it will be around £78 a year, tops. Once again, we're getting shafted.

But Sky has the cost of making the programme. I bet they would be happy to take the F1 Liberty feed, cut their costs by binning their commentators and film crew, reduce the the fee and therefore pull in more punters and probably make more profit.

Yes, but want exactly do they make? Apart from the pre-race bullshit, every live race feed I’ve ever seen is the same, so presumably everyone across the globe sees the same thing from the same company. Unless I’m missing something here, surely the main costs are the broadcasting rights, and the mouth-on-a-stick talking-head presenters?

That costs a fortune to make. Brundle is on £2 million per annum ... add the others plus a film crew, travel, all the back room staff ..

What d’you reckon it costs in total? Can’t be more than £5 million, surely? Be interesting to know.

Per weekend, quite probably.

Heartfeltdawn

Fretwired said:

chillidoggy said:

And for those countries that don't have an F1 deal wrapped up it will be around £78 a year, tops. Once again, we're getting shafted.

But Sky has the cost of making the programme. I bet they would be happy to take the F1 Liberty feed, cut their costs by binning their commentators and film crew, reduce the the fee and therefore pull in more punters and probably make more profit.

And they recoup some of those costs by selling to other networks. Australia have Sky's coverage on Foxtel and now America networks are going with Sky. 

https://www.jamesallenonf1.com/2018/02/us-fans-to-get-sky-sports-f1-coverage-on-espn-and-abc/

The audience figures in the US don't really demand an American network do their own production/coverage. Far more cost effective to buy the Sky feed.