tFB Merch! UPDATE: now with prices and card payments

digitalscream

Jonathangus said:

That looks very cool.  Are the bars 3-D printed as well?

No, they're wood - specifically, this:

https://www.diy.com/departments/smooth-planed-square-edge-stripwood-l-2-4m-w-44mm-t-12mm/5059340109282_BQ.prd

Of course, any 45mm x 12mm strip wood will do. The idea is that you can make the board as big as you need, and when you inevitably get one pedal too many you can just spend another £8.97 on wood (if you don't have any left over) and expand it.

That said, I think it should be possible to print the slats too, they'd just need some reinforcement - which, if you're smart about it, you could do with metal straws from Amazon for the cheapest possible approach. I did do a design for one which would use M8 rods and bolt in from the ends, but the bill of materials would've put it at approaching used Pedaltrain prices to make it worth doing.

roundthebend

what supports the slats from underneath? Will they stand the test of time being trodden on? Is it screws or bolts? Or is there part of the printed structure on the underside too?

roundthebend

digitalscream said:

Pedalboard ahoy! Just doing a bit of prototyping today, should be able to get a full board put together with cable management tomorrow (in theory).



They really do look better in person, my damn phone seems to love highlighting all the imperfections.

Assuming they're as rigid as I'm expecting, production will commence on Monday. These are somewhat more expensive to produce than the neck rests, so the kits (including all the screws, and cable management bits) will probably be £10 each. However, given that the point is to raise funds for the forum coffers, I'll probably have a deal in place for subscribers.

That answers my question, I can see the printed structure creates a pocket for the slats to fit snugly into. Looks strong enough. The slat material will be the weakness and is the choice of the user.

Jonathangus

digitalscream said:

Jonathangus said:

That looks very cool.  Are the bars 3-D printed as well?

No, they're wood - specifically, this:

https://www.diy.com/departments/smooth-planed-square-edge-stripwood-l-2-4m-w-44mm-t-12mm/5059340109282_BQ.prd

Of course, any 45mm x 12mm strip wood will do. The idea is that you can make the board as big as you need, and when you inevitably get one pedal too many you can just spend another £8.97 on wood (if you don't have any left over) and expand it.

That said, I think it should be possible to print the slats too, they'd just need some reinforcement - which, if you're smart about it, you could do with metal straws from Amazon for the cheapest possible approach. I did do a design for one which would use M8 rods and bolt in from the ends, but the bill of materials would've put it at approaching used Pedaltrain prices to make it worth doing.

Ah, right.

Only comment I'd make is that Velcro tends to come in 50 mm wide strips, which is going to overhang the bars.

digitalscream

Jonathangus said:

digitalscream said:

Jonathangus said:

That looks very cool.  Are the bars 3-D printed as well?

No, they're wood - specifically, this:

https://www.diy.com/departments/smooth-planed-square-edge-stripwood-l-2-4m-w-44mm-t-12mm/5059340109282_BQ.prd

Of course, any 45mm x 12mm strip wood will do. The idea is that you can make the board as big as you need, and when you inevitably get one pedal too many you can just spend another £8.97 on wood (if you don't have any left over) and expand it.

That said, I think it should be possible to print the slats too, they'd just need some reinforcement - which, if you're smart about it, you could do with metal straws from Amazon for the cheapest possible approach. I did do a design for one which would use M8 rods and bolt in from the ends, but the bill of materials would've put it at approaching used Pedaltrain prices to make it worth doing.

Ah, right.

Only comment I'd make is that Velcro tends to come in 50 mm wide strips, which is going to overhang the bars.

That did only occur to me later - the stuff I always used to use was 38mm Velcro, which is about £3/m on Amazon. However, I thought most folk went with the small pads of 3M Dual Lock these days?

digitalscream

roundthebend said:

That answers my question, I can see the printed structure creates a pocket for the slats to fit snugly into. Looks strong enough. The slat material will be the weakness and is the choice of the user.

It's actually slightly more than that - the provided screws for the ends (and the back piece in the middle) are 25mm whereas the wood is 12mm thick, and there are holes on the top and the bottom of the pockets for the screws to fit into. That way, the wooden pieces are braced from both sides, and will be more secure.

digitalscream

Just getting the demo board ready...I'm no expert with painting and the like, but I rather like the way it's turned out

digitalscream

roundthebend said:

That answers my question, I can see the printed structure creates a pocket for the slats to fit snugly into. Looks strong enough. The slat material will be the weakness and is the choice of the user.

Oh, I forgot to answer this - I can stand on the board with my feet in the weakest part of the wood, and it doesn't even bend; it's as solid as any other board I've used, if using real wood. I'd imagine that something like MDF would be pretty weak, but that'd be a really daft choice for something like this anyway.

digitalscream

OK, having done all the sums, the prices will be:

Neck Rests:

Members - free
Everyone Else - £5

Pedalboard Kits:

Subscribers - £5
Members - £10
Everyone Else: £15

@TTony may or may not approve.

Stock will be limited, there will be about 30 of each on the stand (I'll probably reserve 10 of each for Sunday if they turn out to be massively popular on the Saturday).

Also...cash only, no card payments. There's an outside chance we'll be able to take PayPal if I'm on the stand, but that might be a bit of a pain.

Let's hope this isn't a hilarious failure

Roland

Oh yea of little faith. At least refer to it as beta testing.

mrkb

^ Wow, I'll be there at 10am on saturday to get one!
Hope you limit them to avoid the ebay scalpers

Sporky

Blimey - even the full-whack prices seem jolly affordable. 

Chris.B

I'm hoping to get to the show on Saturday and with a bit of luck I'll be early enough to get a neck rest

guitars4you

Lee - I'll pay £5 for a neck rest - Don't think it should be free - I know I need one as my existing rest is well worn - Hope that is okay - Unless it is crap, it shouldn't be free 

TTony

guitars4you said:

 Unless it is crap, it shouldn't be free 

^^^^^^^
@digitalscream

digitalscream

guitars4you said:

Lee - I'll pay £5 for a neck rest - Don't think it should be free - I know I need one as my existing rest is well worn - Hope that is okay - Unless it is crap, it shouldn't be free 

Did @TTony put you up to that?

Really, the neck rests are just to generate a bit of interest, and potentially get members into the idea of buying stuff - they won't be free forever. As @Roland said...it's kind of a beta test of the theory. If these things turn out to be popular, the proceeds from the boards may end up going towards another printer so I can design and produce more tFB stuff.

Teyeplayer

Sporky said:

Blimey - even the full-whack prices seem jolly affordable. 

Agreed @sporky. 

If these were available to order for those not attending the show I’d happily pay the full price for the set plus postage. I think stuff like this has great potential for generating a bit of extra forum income. 

sev112

I didn’t think enough of us go on long haul flights to merit neck rests, but who would have known


look great , well done all involved 

guitars4you

digitalscream said:

guitars4you said:

Lee - I'll pay £5 for a neck rest - Don't think it should be free - I know I need one as my existing rest is well worn - Hope that is okay - Unless it is crap, it shouldn't be free 

Did @TTony put you up to that?

Really, the neck rests are just to generate a bit of interest, and potentially get members into the idea of buying stuff - they won't be free forever. As @Roland said...it's kind of a beta test of the theory. If these things turn out to be popular, the proceeds from the boards may end up going towards another printer so I can design and produce more tFB stuff.

Okay but can I give you a fiver for one still and no Tony never said anything- but I do agree with him (for once)

Offset

Too cheap.