Line 6 Helix

John_A

Pittster said:

simonk said:

@neilg either an XLR (microphone) cable or a 1/4” jack to male XLR cable.

am I missing something? I have a DXR10 and connect it to my LT with an instrument 1/4 to 1/4" cable. am I not getting the 'best' out of it by doing this?

For some reason I find the jack input on the DXR to be noisier than the XLR, didn't really look in to it, just switched to the XLR and it was a lot better

Sporky

From the Helix's point of view there's no difference between going from the jack outputs to some jack inputs, or going from the jack outputs to some XLR inputs, because the Helix LT's jack outputs are unbalanced.

Going from the XLR outputs to some XLR inputs could make a difference because the connections are then balanced, which improves noise rejection. In some rooms this will be audibly less noisy, in others (probably most) it won't make an audible difference.

It is quite possible that the inputs on a given speaker will behave differently, of course.

John_A

I run from the jack output of the helix to the XLR in on the DXR for personal monitor, and use the Helix XLR outs straight to the PA.  The DXR is definitely less noisy using the XLR input.  Probably just a gain thing and I'm sure there are other ways of doing it

firepaulmusic

Cabicular said:

firepaulmusic said:

If you buy a second hand Helix which has been registered by the original owner, is it a problem for the new owner to load software updates?

No you can transfer all that and as long as you have the original receipt the warranty is transferable too (currently 2 years in U.K.)
i don’t know what the situation with Native is
Ask Frankie Ritchotte in the Helix Facebook group
He is a great guy

Thanks!

TTBZ

Spending a bit more time with Native today! I've got some tones I'm pretty happy with but still got a bit of a digital sheen to it that i can't dial out yet. Having the most luck blending 2 cabs, studio preamp before the amp seems to give it a nice feel as well.

Weirdly I've downloaded a free preset and it doesn't seem to sound anything like the video the creator posted. Much duller and less alive sounding. Wondering if my interface is to blame? I've always had a bit of a problem getting great tones from any modelling software (apart from s gear 2). Still, sounds way better through my MR5s than the rack one I tried through headphones a while back!

meltedbuzzbox

Check you high cut setting and roll it way back to 6k or lower?

Aidanspaghetti

Read an interesting post on tgp bout the “controversial” update at namm..
the chap put forward the notion of paid content. Definitely interesting and most definitely controversial.... 
Hope it ain’t that!

hubobulous

I guess it's similar to the H9 business model. If the existing hardware has longevity built in, they need income generated elsewhere

digitalscream

Aidanspaghetti said:

Read an interesting post on tgp bout the “controversial” update at namm..
the chap put forward the notion of paid content. Definitely interesting and most definitely controversial.... 
Hope it ain’t that!

Link?

TTBZ

meltedbuzzbox said:

Check you high cut setting and roll it way back to 6k or lower?

Yeah I've done loads of faffing with the high/low cuts etc, still not got anything I'd be truly happy to drop the Helix money on. Tried various IRs and still not doing it for me properly.

So far I've had much better luck with using my amps DI out and adding an IR in Reaper - think a reactive load box may be the way forwards for me to be honest. I've even had better tones using the Marshall CODE 25 usb direct recording feature, so I'm not ruling out the possibility that my interface is just shit for DI guitar. I'd have to try out a proper Helix to be sure it's not something wrong with the inputs of my interface.

Teetonetal

Aidanspaghetti said:

Read an interesting post on tgp bout the “controversial” update at namm..
the chap put forward the notion of paid content. Definitely interesting and most definitely controversial.... 
Hope it ain’t that!

Have Line 6 said it will be controversial?

simonk

Teetonetal said:

Aidanspaghetti said:

Read an interesting post on tgp bout the “controversial” update at namm..
the chap put forward the notion of paid content. Definitely interesting and most definitely controversial.... 
Hope it ain’t that!

Have Line 6 said it will be controversial?

DI claimed so here.

Teetonetal

hmm, interesting that they have completely rewritten the helix code over time. Frank said a bundle of times that there were no plans to amortize the FW updates, so I reckon something else. Perhaps non guitar centered update? Synth/Bass/Vocal stuff added? We'll see.

If it is pay to play, then it will have to be an amazing update to be worth it. i'm not really wanting for anything and those 4 fx loops allow me to get what little things I do want in there (better reverb, better pitch fx)

Maybe they added patch compatibility with Ax Fx - now THAT would be controversial  

Teetonetal

hubobulous said:

I guess it's similar to the H9 business model. If the existing hardware has longevity built in, they need income generated elsewhere

H9 Model is top unit gets everything - others you pay. 

digitalscream

simonk said:

Teetonetal said:

Aidanspaghetti said:

Read an interesting post on tgp bout the “controversial” update at namm..
the chap put forward the notion of paid content. Definitely interesting and most definitely controversial.... 
Hope it ain’t that!

Have Line 6 said it will be controversial?

DI claimed so here.

Ahhhh...I see.

I'm reasonably sure I know what the "controversial" part is. I'm not entirely sure why it'd be considered so, but as I've said before...it makes it blindingly obvious what their next Helix-family product is.

As for paid content...I doubt it. After all, that's part of what killed the Eleven Rack, and I'm sure nobody really wants to go there again. You've also got to consider that the Helix is already pretty damn comprehensive, so they're going to be pretty limited in the amount of revenue they can grab that way; far better to attract new customers with an expanded range based on free updates, which is exactly what they seem to be doing.

Teetonetal

digitalscream said:

simonk said:

Teetonetal said:

Aidanspaghetti said:

Read an interesting post on tgp bout the “controversial” update at namm..
the chap put forward the notion of paid content. Definitely interesting and most definitely controversial.... 
Hope it ain’t that!

Have Line 6 said it will be controversial?

DI claimed so here.

Ahhhh...I see.

I'm reasonably sure I know what the "controversial" part is. I'm not entirely sure why it'd be considered so, but as I've said before...it makes it blindingly obvious what their next Helix-family product is.

As for paid content...I doubt it. After all, that's part of what killed the Eleven Rack, and I'm sure nobody really wants to go there again. You've also got to consider that the Helix is already pretty damn comprehensive, so they're going to be pretty limited in the amount of revenue they can grab that way; far better to attract new customers with an expanded range based on free updates, which is exactly what they seem to be doing.

Especially as that's what the chief competitor is doing. Paid for helix updates in today's market would be a real boost for fractal.

rossyamaha

With regards to the paid extras thing, I do think that could work for a minority. People are spending money on presets so why not buy a new amp or effect for $1 and actually get something out of it? For the majority, it would be a big fat no, honestly, including myself. 

I want to stress, I genuinely don't know if this is the case or not. I only know one thing about the update and paid for stuff isn't it! Just being clear on that one. 

Digital_Igloo

The controversial aspect has nothing to do with paid content. EA's business model can suck it.

Cabicular

Digital_Igloo said:

The controversial aspect has nothing to do with paid content. EA's business model can suck it.

Thanks Eric

Teetonetal

Digital_Igloo said:

The controversial aspect has nothing to do with paid content. EA's business model can suck it.

Are you bored of saying this yet? 
Still good to know. Line 6 has made good on every helix promise so far. Delighted to hear the ride continues