I don't THINK I'm about to be scammed . . .

Paul_C

andrewaward said:

@Paul_C ;- were all the Customs docs filled out OK and accurate?

no idea, I had nothing to do with arranging the shipping - all I did was box it up and put the address on it - the chap receiving it was responsible for the shipping.

andrewaward

that might be problem then..............anything shipped outside the EU needs Customs documents (attached to the parcel), and they have to be signed, stating what is in the parcel and its value (so Customs in the destination country can charge appropriate import tax).

Paul_C

andrewaward said:

that might be problem then..............anything shipped outside the EU needs Customs documents, and they have to be signed, stating what is in the parcel and its value (so Customs in the destination country can charge appropriate import tax).

That sounds likely - as I say, I didn't get involved in arranging the shipping.

I've messaged the Russian and let him know.

andrewaward

If he arranged the shipping (from his home in Russia) - with Parcel Force - he should have been given the Customs forms ..............then he should have emailed them to you...............then you should have printed them off and attached them to the parcel.


The Russian is the recipient in all this...........if you are officially the sender (which I think you are, since it was returned to you) then its you that has to sign the Customs forms.

So you're signing and taking responsibility as to whats in the parcel and that the value of it is accurate (ie its not being under declared to avoid paying the county's import tax).

SteveRobinson

This seems to be turning out to be a hard way of earning £20.

Chalky

SteveRobinson said:

This seems to be turning out to be a hard way of earning £20.

Yeah, but think of the movie rights!

Ravenous

Chalky said:

SteveRobinson said:

This seems to be turning out to be a hard way of earning £20.

Yeah, but think of the movie rights!

I'm waiting for it to come out in paperback!

Teetonetal

Paul_C said:

7/1/2017

	00:18	National Hub	Sorted
6/1/2017	19:22	International Hub	Released from customs
6/1/2017	19:21	International Hub	Arrived in the UK
4/1/2017	10:00	International Hub	Exported from the UK
4/1/2017	02:47	International Hub	Prepared for export
3/1/2017	22:26	International Hub	Prepared for export
3/1/2017	22:16	International Hub	Sorted for export

it's looking like I shall see it again soon - my intention is to turn it away and tell them to send it to Russia, which is what they were paid to do.

To be fair - I've had this numerous times buying things from Amazon and shipping to Zurich. It normally means it was rejected at destination customs, either with incorrect or illegible paper work. I bought some headphones once that took 7 attempts for Amazon to get to me. All shipped via Parcelforce . Eventually they shipped DHL and they got here 1st attempt.

TTony

And the latest, completely unforeseen twist in this saga is that ....

Bridgehouse

TTony said:

And the latest, completely unforeseen twist in this saga is that ....

Apparently it's going to turn up at mine as the 74 Precision I bought from random-Internet-in-Europe dude!

Paul_C

Currently it's in a Parcelforce depot somewhere - "apparently" some instruments are regularly refused by Russian customs so he wants it sent to his sister's address in Latvia, but it has to be returned here first, unless they sort things out at Parcelforce.

So there's still an opportunity for drama but nothing much is happening at the moment.

Antique_Guitars

I'm not that surprised, the company I work for are not able to ship instruments directly to Russia. They have to be shipped to the Ukraine and taken over the border by lorry.

hywelg

Paul_C said:

so he wants it sent to his sister's address in Latvia.

And there ladies and gentlemen is the excuse Russia needs to invade the Baltic states . 

I just knew this would turn out badly.

Paul_C

Latest update: Tracking says it has left the country for the second time - it never came back here, so no idea where it's heading for

Bridgehouse

Paul_C said:

Latest update: Tracking says it has left the country for the second time - it never came back here, so no idea where it's heading for

Not to me anyway

nick_s

4 days is enough to get to Russia, where's it at and have you been accosted by the KGB yet?  

Paul_C

no news, sorry - tracking latest just says "exported from the UK"

I've stopped looking now, unless reminded  

Paul_C

MAJOR UPDATE: It's currently residing at "MOSKVA PCI-8 EMS" - which might mean it's not been turned back this time

Still quite a distance from St. Petersburg, but nearer than it's been for quite a while

Ravenous

The new owner can definitely say his bass has been toured around the world!

Paul_C

OMG!!!

Tracking says "Out For Delivery"



Unfortunately it also says "Attempted delivery" so it's not quite there yet, but it's not far away now (I assume it hasn't gone back to Moscow).