It looks like you're new here. If you want to get involved, click one of these buttons!
Subscribe to our Patreon, and get image uploads with no ads on the site!
Base theme by DesignModo & ported to Powered by Vanilla by Chris Ireland, modified by the "theFB" team.
Comments
That said I’d be happy to see them give Moeen a run there.
Beyond Vince is there anywhere else to turn?
I would drop Rashid. I think if Mooen is on form with the ball, then he is a better bet, Root seems to trust him a lot more.
Mid to Lower order could easily be:
Stokes 5, Bairstow or Butler 6, Ali 7, Woakes 8, Curran 9, Broad 10, Anderson 11
You could potential leave out Curran or Woakes for Bairstow / Buttler, but I like the left arm option of Curran, if he bowls tidily it offers the batsman something else to think about, with unusual angles of delivery etc)
But what to do with Positions 1-4? Root ought to be 4, not 3 . Worth England brining in 3 new batsman for the dead rubber?
Same for Moeen - when he is selected as the "second spinner" he seems to thrive off it. Can't handle the pressure of being the number one spinner.
Apparently here is a "major" announcement from the ECB at midday. Potentially Ali Cook's retirement announcement. I hope not...
Anyway, standard English Test summer - paper over the tracks ready for a whipping in Sri Lanka this winter.
https://sixstringsupplies.co.uk/
Our YouTube Channel for handy "How-To" Wiring Tutorials
sad day. Top bloke
*An Official Foo-Approved guitarist since Sept 2023.
Now drop him for the final test and get 2 new openers in!
*An Official Foo-Approved guitarist since Sept 2023.
He most definitely deserves a farewell test. No pressure to perform, probably get a double ton!
https://sixstringsupplies.co.uk/
Our YouTube Channel for handy "How-To" Wiring Tutorials
It isn't just height per se that gives bounce to a leg break or an off break. Anil Kumble is 1.85m tall, Shahid Afridi 1.82m, and Stuart Macgill 1.83m. The first two were predominately overspin leg break bowlers. MacGill got way more turn than both of the first two because he bowled with a lot more sidespin. The rough rule of thumb.
Overspin = more bounce, less turn.
Sidespin = more turn, less bounce
Simon Hughes did a good piece on side spin versus overspin in the 2005 Ashes with Warne getting Trescothick caught behind. You can clearly see the variation in terms of seam position when released: more subtle and not covered by Hughes is the arm position relative to the perpendicular when released. The delivery Warne bowls with more sidespin has a slightly lower arm than the overspun delivery.
So at the Ageas Bowl you had a wicket close to perfect for an spinner who bowls overspun deliveries. Once the ball grips in the wicket, then you get the natural variations on a worn wicket: odd bounce high and low, massive turn as we saw with some of those LBW shouts against Kohli. As we saw with Rashid, the lower arm and the sidespun deliveries didn't have very much effect. You then look at Ashwin. He's flightier than Moeen and some of the analysis showed that he was having trouble finding the right pace to bowl on the wicket. He's not so much about the overspin at Moeen.
Swann was OK on his first Australia tour but still averaged 40 against a less than stellar Aussie side as part of a bowling unit that had them for toast. Compare that against the career records of some spin bowlers who played in Australia (photo supplied by one SK Warne):
https://imgur.com/hihh8F7
The lowest average on there is Mushtaq Ahmed. He bowled with a high action and overspin. Consequently this meant he had a ripper googly and a leg break that didn't turn much. Saqlain used overspin. Kumble overspin versus sidespin.
Richie Benaud bowled with a lot of overspin. So he adapted.
https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/cricket/richie-benaud-a-custodian-of-the-art-of-leg-spin-he-put-cricket-in-a-debt-to-him-which-it-will-never-10167478.html
I can also speak from personal experience as someone who was very much an overspinning leg break bowler when he started county youth cricket and managed to flip it around by the time he was 19 to be able to change it depending on the type of wicket.
Nah, give him a proper farewell. Let him go out with some crowd applause as he bloody well deserves it.
And then beg him to act as a batting consultant for the next generation. Can't see him being much of a media pundit or commentator.
*An Official Foo-Approved guitarist since Sept 2023.
Definitely the crater made a difference in this Test but you've still had the situation of Moeen comprehensively outbowling two other slow bowlers. Kohli was right when they said they'd picked the wrong team: Jadeja on that wicket would be been a right handful.
*An Official Foo-Approved guitarist since Sept 2023.
Which hasn't stopped Jadeja in the past, given that the guy he's dismissed most in Test cricket is that chap who's just announced his swansong. Coincidentally that same chap is also Ashwin's top bunny.
But the crater is outside a left handlers leg stump
*An Official Foo-Approved guitarist since Sept 2023.
Yep.
*An Official Foo-Approved guitarist since Sept 2023.