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I'm sure the cops will quietly let them out of the back door of the hoosegow.
I was wrong. They are intensely stupid. They are quite simply, cult members. NOTHING can convince them that the endless streams of propaganda fed to them by the right-wing crazy channels is anything other than the absolute unvarnished truth. It’s a cult. They will dismiss or wilfully ignore anything critical of their glorious Fuhrer and hang on his every word as though he were the messiah.
But we all know he’s not the messiah....
Offset "(Emp) - a little heavy on the hyperbole."
More bats-in-belfry here: https://nyegop.org/2021/01/08/a-letter-from-the-chairman/?v=7516fd43adaa
"Take these three items, some WD-40, a vise grip, and a roll of duct tape. Any man worth his salt can fix almost any problem with this stuff alone." - Walt Kowalski
"Only two things are infinite - the universe, and human stupidity. And I'm not sure about the universe." - Albert Einstein
Personally I think the actual harm and overt destruction and intimidation will increase as hard-core groups are seeing themselves as martyr's, just like extreme islamists. There's also the real risk of protections from inside police groups as sections will be radicalised allowing extremists a pass to terrorism. Again for the cause.
No one should underestimate the power of suggestion and how its taken hold over the last 5 years.
https://imgur.com/gallery/jsZTZjJ
It seems so batty and impossible to me that it really would shatter reality completely. And yet, here we are.
He doesn’t actually need to be convicted and removed before the 20th for this to happen, as long as charges are brought before he leaves office.
We can see that the republican lawmakers have been complicit due to fear and retribution from trump. A change has occurred since trumps political platforms are beginning to be disrupted. However, the antagonists, as I see it which will keep the GOP in a fascist form will come from heavily armed militia groups
https://www.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/comments/kucaz0/the_moment_officer_brian_sicknick_is_dragged_into/
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A prime example of the madness of collectivism, and the absolute abhorence of group-think. Look at the ones who are stood around smiling and grinning. They are not there for beliefs. They are there for chaos - they are there to riot, and to feel like they are part of something, something bigger than them. They've fallen victim to all of the worst nefarious aspects of the human condition.
We know from studies on herd mentality that it takes 5% of people to sway the other 95%. 5% of dickheads can turn what should be a peaceful protest into an all our riotous murder fest. It doesn't matter the side or the tribe; if 5% of them are absolute brainwashed maniac arseholes, then things go bad.
And this is what happens when we can't communicate as a species. We revert to our shit-head lizard brain, and we enjoy it.
I've really woken up with a low opinion of humanity today. Think I need to get off the internet for a bit!
I think victim is a good way to think about these people, they are victims of significant abuses of power by the most powerful man in the world that has utilised the most prevalent narratives and 'truths' which have been internalised by this group of people. Over time these truths become increasingly accepted, especially when powerful figure and leader adopts them in their narratives. The trust and blind belief these people show to their leader is 100% the same as a cult leader and extreme radical cleric.
I agree if 5%, 2%, even 1% have significant power to cause harm to those in the vicinity that they operate in then coercion will happen. It's about self-preservation, the 1% are trying to preserve themselves as much as the 99% that are scared of them and follow. The bullies we are talking about invoke fear to gain control in part due to them never really successfully negotiating those early experiences of control and omnipotence as very young children. So they find fear as a route to achieving a sense of control in the world and this then becomes very well practiced in the contexts they have relationships. The love they find is obviously very very fragile, and they'll never expect that love to run a long term course - which is why we see Donald Trump firing people before they overtly, and predictably throw their love in his face. Donald Trump, and the Trump family, have learned to buy love historically, have suddenly found a new form of unconditional love they never knew existed. This for me explains why Donald Trump is still placating his followers and disputing the election, and he will never give up; he's experiencing unconditional love for the first time in his life and desperate to control and maintain it. It's an addiction for him, but also for his children, who have equally never experienced this unconditional love. The nucleus of the Trump family only knows love through payment, love with conditions and that love doesn't last. Trumpism is the love he never knew and never had, whether it causes harm to himself or the world is irrelevant, he'll do everything to hold onto it.
I don't even know how to respond to that quite honestly. I cannot follow your logic at all, and don't even know where to begin untangling the web of words you've just posted. It just reads as a kneejerk defense of collectivism, because you think I just attacked it.
Scientifically speaking, we know what happens when a collective of humans get together for one common purpose. We know how easily manipulable they are. We know the mechanisms at play. 5% isn't a number I just plucked out of the air. It's what the literature suggests.
I don't understand how you jump from my saying they're an example of the madness of collectivism to an assertion you make that they're not collectivists, to inaccurate percentages, to comments about love....
Like - no piss take... I just don't get it.
The research by numbers, albeit is important, doesn't talk about the mechanisms - it's just a mean average, and what it proves is that just like you said a small number of people relative to the group size can hold significant influence. I don't dispute that number, what I'll add though is that number is context dependent and in no way will there ever be 5%, and in no way will the contextual mechanisms be the same from situation to situation. But in order to understand the contextual mechanisms we need to understand the expectations of relationships for these people, but without sitting them on the couch, the only way we can do that is through their actions and discourses as they present them in the real world.
I'm highlighting that actually this situation is very very very bad. From a psychoanalytic perspective this president will not relinquish power over his devoted followers because he has never experienced unconditional love in his life, and I would argue that unconsciously this has more power than money for Donald Trump and his family. I predict that Trump would sooner go to rack and ruin before he gives up on is devoted followers.
Blue lives matter according to these guys. One guy, with a flag pole (who, let's be clear, jabs it into the face-down fallen cop) is *smiling* as he does it.
Fuck.