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Next test I need to do is try some drives in front of it but the drive sounds are great anyway.
I've added an Origin Effects Deluxe61 to be my "amp" so I can get Fender-like cleans (which I've been missing) and redialled the OE RevivalDrive Compact to feed into it for Marshally tones. Signal path is now like this:
Guitar --> ES-5 [H90 "pre" effects (Loop1), Kernom Ridge(Loop2), OE RDC(Loop4), TC Spark(Loop5)] --> OE Deluxe61 --> H90 "post" effects --> Neunaber Iconoclast
Very organic/natural in feel and I'm pretty happy. The pedals respond to the guitar volume control, and I never got that with modellers. The nice thing about using the OE pedals as amps is both "amps" are non-master volume in design, but also have an output control. So I can dial in the tone I want, and then adjust the output level without changing that tone. I've got the Deluxe61 drive set to have a breakup sound when I dig in hard or hit it with the Spark, but the RDC is set to be at unity gain and just change the tone.
Still a work in progress and probably always will be, but I'm having fun! :-)
For the past month or so I've been running the RDC after the ES-5 loops as my only direct amp. It was set up to sound Voxy, so I could dig in and get edge-of-breakup, or add overdrive and get Marshally. The RDC can do a nice Fenderish clean, too, but in a performance situation I've got no time to bend down and twiddle the RDC. I just dial it in and leave it alone.
If I had more loops on the ES-5 I might have taken the approach that one song uses the Deluxe61 and another uses the RDC, and switched loops, but as I already knew the RDC can deliver when it's feeding another amp, I decided to save the loop and do it like this.
I guess it's possible that a real Deluxe61 wouldn't work, either. I've never played one. My RDC sounds (when fed into a clean amp) have been into a Carr Mercury Original and a Rivera Chubster.
So, I''ve taken the RDC back out of the ES-5 loop and put it in series with the D61. None of my songs need an amp channel change in mid song, so I'm going to tapdance when I'm not playing and select the amp I want for the song I'm about to play.
I could put them both into ES-5 loops, as @CarbonCopy ;remarked, but I've got those empty loops earmarked for something else in the future. Onwards and upwards!
Edit: I've got the RDC going into the D61. I wonder if swapping them around would let me leave the D61 on all the time and yet still get the RDC tones I'me looking for? One less footswitch to toggle, then...
And finally (for now) here's a pic of my board this morning with both OE pedals installed. The RDC and D61 are in series after my signal leaves the output of the ES-5. First the D61, then the RDC and then one signal path of the H90 (for back-end effects, loop 1 on the ES-5 has another H90 signal path for front-end effects) before finally feeding the Iconoclast and out to the desk.
I've learned that either OE pedal behaves like an amp and can be fed with pedals, but they can't feed each other in a manner that works for me or sounds good. It's one or the other in bypass at any one time.
I've managed to make this work with one set of presets, no matter what I'm plugged into. Direct to desk, into borrowed backline dialled in clean, into my own amp. It's the flexibility I was hoping for, pretty much.
In my "lets use a modeller for convenience" days, I had to run one set of presets when using the amp models (and all the associated extra effects to make the amp model sound decent) and another set of presets for when the amp model was off and I was plugging into backline. Not any more, which is a blessing.
https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/c8wfcywgxji31wqgd272v/MyBoard.JPG?rlkey=736j6k678aqys0uhz2phi2hpx&raw=1
I don't use tremolo at the moment, not on the D61 and not on the H90. But... the D61 trem is beautiful and "swampy" with the drive turned up, so I can see me recording using that at some point even if I keep the D61 set as a clean-ish Fender for most things.
It's all good! :-)