R8 Peach Deal

Fifty9

poopot said:

Can you describe the difference the scale length made?

poopot

@customkits will be better to placed to describe the technical difference... but... from a practical point of actually playing, there is more space between frets up the dusty end... or that is how it appears to me (and a few other folk that have played them).

roberty

poopot said:

@customkits will be better to placed to describe the technical difference... but... from a practical point of actually playing, there is more space between frets up the dusty end... or that is how it appears to me (and a few other folk that have played them).

So there's more space at the top but the bottom is the same?

poopot

roberty said:

poopot said:

@customkits will be better to placed to describe the technical difference... but... from a practical point of actually playing, there is more space between frets up the dusty end... or that is how it appears to me (and a few other folk that have played them).

So there's more space at the top but the bottom is the same?

Different all the way along the neck.

WezV

roberty said:

poopot said:

@customkits will be better to placed to describe the technical difference... but... from a practical point of actually playing, there is more space between frets up the dusty end... or that is how it appears to me (and a few other folk that have played them).

So there's more space at the top but the bottom is the same?

found this image - not totally accurate in  the comments, but the maths is okay.   

the two comments at the end ignore compensation, which you need less of on a rule of 18 instrument.  in fact many early guitars didn't have any compensation at all, the rule of 18 provided enough to each fret position to make it work

WezV

there are also stories of worn out tools, periods of inaccurate measurement, different maths being used above and below the 12th fret etc....

its a fun topic

Danielsguitars

WezV said:

roberty said:

poopot said:

@customkits will be better to placed to describe the technical difference... but... from a practical point of actually playing, there is more space between frets up the dusty end... or that is how it appears to me (and a few other folk that have played them).

So there's more space at the top but the bottom is the same?

found this image - not totally accurate in  the comments, but the maths is okay.   

the two comments at the end ignore compensation, which you need less of on a rule of 18 instrument.  in fact many early guitars didn't have any compensation at all, the rule of 18 provided enough to each fret position to make it work

That's far too scientific for me Wez, i just know it works really well and that's the only scale i use on my short scale builds

Danielsguitars

poopot said:

@customkits will be better to placed to describe the technical difference... but... from a practical point of actually playing, there is more space between frets up the dusty end... or that is how it appears to me (and a few other folk that have played them).

The technical difference is the old one is better, i really don't get technically bogged down in any of this stuff, the old ones used it and they sound good to me, it's the only one i use and i had custom made fret scale templates made, i have 2 more being made so i can cut inlays and fret without removing the board

They do feel different to play for me as poopot said there seems to be more space above the 12th fret and possibly why the old ones sound a bit different too

This is a whole different subject and may not be wanted in this thread

WezV

I agree it’s probably best suited to a new thread... might get technical though.

Most obviously don’t need to consider that maths.  No-one really does now there are so many things that do it for you.

roberty

Honestly this thread is a rollercoaster

Fifty9

Is it time to measure & compare our nuts with calipers yet??

roberty

Fifty9 said:

Is it time to measure & compare our nuts with calipers yet??

I beg your pardon?

WezV

Fifty9 said:

Is it time to measure & compare our nuts with calipers yet??

Why not.  No different to you all weighing them with and without the daft switch covers 

nut width is fairly crucial to feel

JerkMoans

Fifty9 said:

Is it time to measure & compare our nuts with calipers yet??

Is it Friday, already?

poopot

Vintage scale on the left... modern scale on the right...

skikdi53

This Morning, chat with GG, and oh surprised when i ask for a 58 DL, that they have one in Camden, the guy just send me a pic, i said, i want it.
Hope this time will not have a bad experience like my first one with Richtone.
[URL=https://www.casimages.com/i/180928120411892682.png.html][IMG]https://nsa39.casimages.com/img/2018/09/28/180928120411892682.png[/IMG][/URL]

Fortheloveofguitar

skikdi53 said:

This Morning, chat with GG, and oh surprised when i ask for a 58 DL, that they have one in Camden, the guy just send me a pic, i said, i want it.
Hope this time will not have a bad experience like my first one with Richtone.
[URL=https://www.casimages.com/i/180928120411892682.png.html][IMG]https://nsa39.casimages.com/img/2018/09/28/180928120411892682.png[/IMG][/URL]

Nice one buddy that’s a great score and pleased you got one 

Jalapeno

skikdi53 said:

This Morning, chat with GG, and oh surprised when i ask for a 58 DL, that they have one in Camden, the guy just send me a pic, i said, i want it.
Hope this time will not have a bad experience like my first one with Richtone.
[URL=https://www.casimages.com/i/180928120411892682.png.html][IMG]https://nsa39.casimages.com/img/2018/09/28/180928120411892682.png[/IMG][/URL]

lovely !

Fortheloveofguitar

Still haven’t sold any yet though 

skikdi53

Thank's.
GG have a good Customer service, just called them cause i payed with paypal and the exchange fees seems to be high, so they canceled my order after Registered my card number and they send me a mail with the link to buy the guitar.
Very happy.