Poor cows

Emp_Fab

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-68351772

19,000 cows on a ship - sleeping in their own faeces.  They've just endured an unimaginable journey from Brazil to Cape Town that left many dead and injured and this afternoon this ship left Cape Town for a two week journey to Iraq.

For fuck's sake....  have some humans no compassion ??



https://www.news24.com/citypress/news/nspca-says-horrors-on-stinking-al-kuwait-ship-are-a-reminder-of-why-live-exports-must-be-stopped-20240221

The ship is owned and operated by Al Mawashi of Kuwait - https://almawashi.com.kw/about-us/corporate

info@kltt.com.kw  is their email address if you want to give them a piece of your mind.

rze99

Utterly deplorable. 

RaymondLin

That’s awful.  

Dominic

poor things

Kurtis

Wonder what they're thinking/feeling. 

Offset

Their destination tells you all you need to know.

Cunts.

Cranky

rze99 said:

Utterly deplorable. 

Too soon

crosstownvamp

Offset said:

Their destination tells you all you need to know.

Cunts.

What, another person who hates all Muslims? What about Brazil letting it happen?

In fact it's also against halal principles but never mind your ignorance.

Sassafras

Won't put people off their burgers.

scrumhalf

Think of the poor sods who will have to clean the ship. 

Tannin

Happens all the time. Here in Oz, every so often news of similar cruelty leaks out into the media and the government cracks down, often banning live export of sheep and cattle to the usual places in the Middle East. After a while the glare of public attention fades and they start it up again. Oh, and they promise faithfully that the cruelty won't ever, ever happen  again until the next time someone sneaks a camera onto a ship.

Cranky

My immediate thought was “were they using an old slave ship?”  But that’s silly; ship building has come a long way since then.

thumpingrug

As a 40 year + veggie and someone who abhours animal cruelty, this is one of the reasons that turned me off eating meat.

However, setting that aside, I can't help but wonder if it isn't cheaper to process the meat in the original country and transport it as the finished product rather than transport live animals.  Unless they are being transported to be cattle at the final destination.  

In either case, the death rate and ill health caused by this form of transport must impact the final product when it does eventually turn up.

robgilmo

We arnt that much better to be fair, except we have normalised animal cruelty to an extent. Obviousley not to the extent in the extent in the original post.
This video might look quite tame to you, I am sure it isnt to the cattle, cruelty isnt just physical.

Stratavarious

crosstownvamp said:

Offset said:

Their destination tells you all you need to know.

Cunts.

What, another person who hates all Muslims? What about Brazil letting it happen?

In fact it's also against halal principles but never mind your ignorance.

It’s a big global trade..  we just don’t question the sentience behind the burger, sausage or the salami.

But doesn’t halal requires local ritual slaughter.. dhabiha, hence the particular need for live transport? There seems to be a fundamental and implicit conflict with the overall animal welfare if they cannot import carcasses.

Sheep central.. New Zealand has banned live animal export transport by sea.  So it can be done.

Offset

crosstownvamp said:

Offset said:

Their destination tells you all you need to know.

Cunts.

What, another person who hates all Muslims? What about Brazil letting it happen?

In fact it's also against halal principles but never mind your ignorance.

Nope - another person who hates cruelty to animals.  That includes the practice of halal butchering.

Offset

Offset said:

crosstownvamp said:

Offset said:

Their destination tells you all you need to know.

Cunts.

What, another person who hates all Muslims? What about Brazil letting it happen?

In fact it's also against halal principles but never mind your ignorance.

Nope - another person who hates cruelty to animals.  That includes the practice of halal butchering.

Oh - and by the way.  Go and look at the footage of those animals on that boat - some of which had to be humanely destroyed.  When you've done so, tell me that you don't think the people who let this happen are total and utter cunts.

Snap

Offset said:

crosstownvamp said:

Offset said:

Their destination tells you all you need to know.

Cunts.

What, another person who hates all Muslims? What about Brazil letting it happen?

In fact it's also against halal principles but never mind your ignorance.

Nope - another person who hates cruelty to animals.  That includes the practice of halal butchering.

Same. There's been some horrendous cruelty footage from halal abbatoirs.

Here's the thing and there is no kidding yourself on this, if you eat meat, you are part of this problem. Cruelty goes unchecked in so many aspects of meat farming, it's unavoidable other than simply packing it in. For most people, that's too much of a lifestyle change to be bothered about.
And then all this blather and mither about climate change and shifting to more eco friendly sources of energy - a cheaper and easier shift is simple to reduce or stop eating meat, We eat way too much and it's shafting the planet.

Viva sprouts!!

bertie

crosstownvamp said:

Offset said:

Their destination tells you all you need to know.

Cunts.

What, another person who hates all Muslims? 

wow

Penn

thumpingrug said:

As a 40 year + veggie and someone who abhours animal cruelty, this is one of the reasons that turned me off eating meat.

However, setting that aside, I can't help but wonder if it isn't cheaper to process the meat in the original country and transport it as the finished product rather than transport live animals.  Unless they are being transported to be cattle at the final destination.  

In either case, the death rate and ill health caused by this form of transport must impact the final product when it does eventually turn up.

Veggie since the 80s to. Can’t watch the video sorry. Animals should be treated with respect and care  

CaseOfAce

The troubling thing is nothing is going to change. Some nations just don't get care. As long as the money keeps a rollin' in...