Game of Thrones

munckee

I wasted so much of my life watching Lost thinking it was so clever I couldn't wait to see the end, until the dreadful moment in the final season when I realised they had a brilliant story idea and no idea how to finish it so they invented an alternate reality between life and death to end it quickly and never explained anything.

If thats what happens here I will be irked.

darthed1981

FarleyUK said:

fretmeister said:

Just a wild thought here...

There has never been an ending to a popular long running TV show that every fan has liked.
Probably hovers around the 50% like or didn't mark.

It's just that the disappointed people tend to shout louder.

I'm actually surprised when 50% of fans like an ending. With an epic show the finale is almost always of a lower quality.
The journey was more important than the ending.

Breaking Bad says hi.

I've seen people moan about the last episode of BB.

The penultimate episode is one of the finest hours of TV ever made, the final one isn't quite as good.

Still really, really good though IMHO.

FarleyUK

fretmeister said:

FarleyUK said:

fretmeister said:

Just a wild thought here...

There has never been an ending to a popular long running TV show that every fan has liked.
Probably hovers around the 50% like or didn't mark.

It's just that the disappointed people tend to shout louder.

I'm actually surprised when 50% of fans like an ending. With an epic show the finale is almost always of a lower quality.
The journey was more important than the ending.

Breaking Bad says hi.

1 example out of how many? And there were some who complained about it.

Statistically irrelevant.

OK Mr Smart-Arse. The point is, the MAJORITY of fans liked that ending, so it is possible. People always like to argue (as you've just shown), so while not EVERYONE will agree on an ending, it's possible to get an ending that satisfies a MAJORITY. Majority = being 'statistically relevant', however you decide to determine that.

GoT has a harder task than most TV shows, as not only are there book vs TV fans, but also those TV fans are not used to the way that GoT handles concepts of heroes and villains. It's nothing like any other show.

fretmeister

I said about 50% and 51% would be a majority.

Whereas 1 show, Breaking Bad, out of dozens of highly rated shows is a tiny percentage in comparison

You're actually making my point.

ToneControl

will she sentence Tyrion to death by dragon fire, and he survives because he's a bloody Targ too?

ToneControl

Breaking Bad final shows were amazingly good

DannyP

Daenerys = Yngwie
Offspring of the mad king Ritchie Blackmore. Considered a Rising Force but now quite, quite mad.

Jon Snow = Knopfler
Simple Northerner. When things got too big and overblown he decided he never wanted any of this and just wants to go back to simpler times.

Bron = Lukather
Bit of a so-and-so, will do anything for the right price.

Johnny & Edgar Winters = Viserys & Rhaegar Taergaryen
Hair.



That’s all I got.

 

 

darthed1981

ToneControl said:

will she sentence Tyrion to death by dragon fire, and he survives because he's a bloody Targ too?

It's possible.

One theory book fans have is that one of the reasons Tywin hated Tyrion so much is he believed that Tyrion might have been the result of the rape of Tywin's wife by Aerys Targaryen.

If so, Jon and Tyrion would be brothers.

I think it's likely that Jon Snow can kill Dany because he is immune to Drogon, and is about the only remaining character who could beat Grey Worm in a stand up fight.

fretmeister

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Those who felt entitled about a story have gone mad because someone who felt entitled in that story went mad.

Jalapeno

fretmeister said:

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Those who felt entitled about a story have gone mad because someone who felt entitled in that story went mad.

Love it !

stickyfiddle

darthed1981 said:

ToneControl said:

will she sentence Tyrion to death by dragon fire, and he survives because he's a bloody Targ too?

It's possible.

One theory book fans have is that one of the reasons Tywin hated Tyrion so much is he believed that Tyrion might have been the result of the rape of Tywin's wife by Aerys Targaryen.

If so, Jon and Tyrion would be brothers.

I think it's likely that Jon Snow can kill Dany because he is immune to Drogon, and is about the only remaining character who could beat Grey Worm in a stand up fight.

Hair & beard and decent understanding of military tactics checks out...

munckee

darthed1981 said:

ToneControl said:

will she sentence Tyrion to death by dragon fire, and he survives because he's a bloody Targ too?

It's possible.

One theory book fans have is that one of the reasons Tywin hated Tyrion so much is he believed that Tyrion might have been the result of the rape of Tywin's wife by Aerys Targaryen.

If so, Jon and Tyrion would be brothers.

I think it's likely that Jon Snow can kill Dany because he is immune to Drogon, and is about the only remaining character who could beat Grey Worm in a stand up fight.

Arya or Brienne would have a fair shout against Greyworm.  Despite being very brave and noble Jon has never shown much extraordinary fighting ability or military prowess.  He killed a white walker, but so did Sam Tarley.

darthed1981

munckee said:

darthed1981 said:

ToneControl said:

will she sentence Tyrion to death by dragon fire, and he survives because he's a bloody Targ too?

It's possible.

One theory book fans have is that one of the reasons Tywin hated Tyrion so much is he believed that Tyrion might have been the result of the rape of Tywin's wife by Aerys Targaryen.

If so, Jon and Tyrion would be brothers.

I think it's likely that Jon Snow can kill Dany because he is immune to Drogon, and is about the only remaining character who could beat Grey Worm in a stand up fight.

Arya or Brienne would have a fair shout against Greyworm.  Despite being very brave and noble Jon has never shown much extraordinary fighting ability or military prowess.  He killed a white walker, but so did Sam Tarley.

Arya is another candidate yes, agreed.  Brienne is out of it now I think.

I disagree about Jon though, consistently he has been portrayed as one of the strongest fighters, right since he joined the Night's Watch.

He is the son of Rhaegar Targaryen and was trained by Ned Stark, solid pedigree there!

WiresDreamDisasters

fretmeister said:

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Those who felt entitled about a story have gone mad because someone who felt entitled in that story went mad.

Yes. Twitter. That great source of wit!

CHRISB50

darthed1981 said:

FarleyUK said:

fretmeister said:

Just a wild thought here...

There has never been an ending to a popular long running TV show that every fan has liked.
Probably hovers around the 50% like or didn't mark.

It's just that the disappointed people tend to shout louder.

I'm actually surprised when 50% of fans like an ending. With an epic show the finale is almost always of a lower quality.
The journey was more important than the ending.

Breaking Bad says hi.

I've seen people moan about the last episode of BB.

The penultimate episode is one of the finest hours of TV ever made, the final one isn't quite as good.

Still really, really good though IMHO.

Yeah. I stopped at the penultimate season. Although I did read ahead to find what happened in the last. I thought it sounded a bit shit so left it at season 4. 

For me the Wire is still the best tv I’ve ever seen. Season 2 was a bit slow. The final season was a bit far fetched, but overall it’s just an amazing series.  

munckee

I'm not saying he is useless or anything but they made a point of saying he looked great compared to kids with no training.  Halfhand let him win and he's been saved on numerous occasions.  Ned Stark turned out not to be as great as his reputation.  

I think I could take him (i'm twice his size for one thing!)

Bridgehouse

WiresDreamDisasters said:

fretmeister said:

Repost from Twitter

Those who felt entitled about a story have gone mad because someone who felt entitled in that story went mad.

Yes. Twitter. That great source of wit!

Clues in the name..

FarleyUK

darthed1981 said:

munckee said:

darthed1981 said:

ToneControl said:

will she sentence Tyrion to death by dragon fire, and he survives because he's a bloody Targ too?

It's possible.

One theory book fans have is that one of the reasons Tywin hated Tyrion so much is he believed that Tyrion might have been the result of the rape of Tywin's wife by Aerys Targaryen.

If so, Jon and Tyrion would be brothers.

I think it's likely that Jon Snow can kill Dany because he is immune to Drogon, and is about the only remaining character who could beat Grey Worm in a stand up fight.

Arya or Brienne would have a fair shout against Greyworm.  Despite being very brave and noble Jon has never shown much extraordinary fighting ability or military prowess.  He killed a white walker, but so did Sam Tarley.

Arya is another candidate yes, agreed.  Brienne is out of it now I think.

I disagree about Jon though, consistently he has been portrayed as one of the strongest fighters, right since he joined the Night's Watch.

He is the son of Rhaegar Targaryen and was trained by Ned Stark, solid pedigree there!

Strategy wise though - he's not exactly great, is he? I think he's had to be pretty much rescued by other characters in every major battle due to his emotion getting the best of him (possibly excluding the battle of King's Landing).

I'm thinking that Jon and Dany have at it, she tries to get Drogon to kill him, Drogon's all 'WTF?' and refuses. Grey Worm goes to kill Jon, Arya kills Grey Worm.

All the Northern Houses, Dorne and the WIldlings have heard he's the One True King as well as DaKingInnaNorf so back him, and are at Winterfell waiting for him (courtesy of Sansa and Varys' letters).

So, the bittersweet ending is, Jon HAS to take the throne, but there's nothing much to lord over anymore due to it being Dany's time of the month.

fretmeister

I'll be disappointed if Bronn doesn't show up in the last episode and say something funny.

In fact...

Jon kills Danny. Jon is king. Won't do the job so makes Tyrion king as they all agree he's a good bloke.

Tyrion doesn't want it, Bronn gets his reward that is bigger than Highgarden...

All Hail King Bronn

munckee

fretmeister said:

I'll be disappointed if Bronn doesn't show up in the last episode and say something funny.

In fact...

Jon kills Danny. Jon is king. Won't do the job so makes Tyrion king as they all agree he's a good bloke.

Tyrion doesn't want it, Bronn gets his reward that is bigger than Highgarden...

All Hail King Bronn

Similar to this but switch Gendry for Bronn.  Gendry wins without ever competing.