Game of Thrones

WiresDreamDisasters

The thing is... last season there was no real signs of mental descent. They didn't build it into that season because they obviously didn't know what the hell they were doing.

darthed1981

Why do we think Dany was mad?

She wasn't, she was much more dangerous, a zealot who thought she was "saving the world".

She always thought that, she was just sliding down a slippery slope.

RaymondLin

We know how merciless she can be, the fact is that all the "good guys" in the show were happy with that, so whilst you can argue that she has always been this way, it was never a problem before.

Now all of the sudden it now is and then to the other characters it was like a surprise and they can't stand beside her anymore but before it was fine.

fretmeister

RaymondLin said:

We know how merciless she can be, the fact is that all the "good guys" in the show were happy with that, so whilst you can argue that she has always been this way, it was never a problem before.

Now all of the sudden it now is and then to the other characters it was like a surprise and they can't stand beside her anymore but before it was fine.

It's almost like it was informed by human history of the rise of despots.

WiresDreamDisasters

darthed1981 said:

Why do we think Dany was mad?

She wasn't, she was much more dangerous, a zealot who thought she was "saving the world".

She always thought that, she was just sliding down a slippery slope.

On reflection I agree more with this than the mad descent idea actually.

littlegreenman

paulnb57

Well, its over and we thoroughly enjoyed it for what it was, the last 6 episodes were on the whole a bit lightweight in places, but overall a good watch......
We have now decided to binge watch the lot again from the start then sack NowTV, which I only subbed to for the GOT final series.....

DannyP

darthed1981 said:

BSG was great

Also great (though with the odd ropey episode) the oft forgotten Babylon 5... with ropey CGI and music from the guy from Tangerine Dream...

Babylon 5's a big pile of shit.

darthed1981

DannyP said:

darthed1981 said:

BSG was great

Also great (though with the odd ropey episode) the oft forgotten Babylon 5... with ropey CGI and music from the guy from Tangerine Dream...

Babylon 5's a big pile of shit.

GET OUT!

Rabs

Did you see..  They are making a prequal...
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/newsbeat-48280752

Tone71

I liked it, the mad kings daughter met the right end as she had slid into madness, and it concluded almost full circle apart from Arya sailing off.

FWIW I always thought she had the best storyline with the faces etc

Schnozz

Tone71 said:

FWIW I always thought she had the best storyline with the faces etc

No...No...

...No.

sticker

Tone71 said:

FWIW I always thought she had the best storyline with the faces etc

Are you sure you’re not confusing her with Ronnie Wood ?

Tone71

sticker said:

Tone71 said:

FWIW I always thought she had the best storyline with the faces etc

Are you sure you’re not confusing her with Ronnie Wood ?

I was waiting for that

RandallFlagg

Look at this scene from Season 3:

Jorah: "If you want to sit on the throne your ancestors built you must win it, that will mean blood on your hands before the thing is done"

Daenerys: "The blood of my enemies not the blood of innocents"

Jorah (to Sir Barristan) "Have you ever seen a war where innocents didn't die by the thousands?" 

Sir Barristan: Shakes head

munckee

sticker said:

Tone71 said:

FWIW I always thought she had the best storyline with the faces etc

Are you sure you’re not confusing her with Ronnie Wood ?

She had one of the hardest paths to the end I would say. 

TTBZ

I was a bit "is that it?" At the ending but at the same time don't know what else I would have wanted from it. Seems like a lot of people feel a bit short changed by it, I'm not that fussed. It was better than the final episode of a lot of other TV show, and as a whole GoT has been awesome.

ToneControl

It occurred to me that the Romans infibulated slave men instead of castrating them, to ensure full muscular development

In that case, surely the unsullied would have not gone through puberty, and would not have normal bodies or voices. FIrst google search finds this:

Dr. Richard Wassersug, retired professor of anatomy and neurobiology and an expert on the psychology of castration:
“So much of this is not consistent with biology. Grey Worm would not have gone through puberty. He’d be taller than any of the men around. He would have a larger chest, knock-kneed deformities, no facial hair, no body hair, although plenty of hair on his head, and a loud, high-pitched voice. Historically, eunuchs were warriors — but they were strategists. They planned the war. They were generals. The problem of making the Unsullied into automaton child warriors is that they would not make good soldiers. The lack of testosterone would slow them down. If you castrated them as kids, they would have less muscle mass to use swords and spears, and by denying them an identity and denying them maternal care, they would have been so damaged. All of that aside, there’s no question that sex drive does go down with castration, but that doesn’t necessarily mean one is asexual. He wouldn’t have a lot of testosterone, he’d have a little from his adrenal glands. 

King85

ToneControl said:

It occurred to me that the Romans infibulated slave men instead of castrating them, to ensure full muscular development

In that case, surely the unsullied would have not gone through puberty, and would not have normal bodies or voices. FIrst google search finds this:

Dr. Richard Wassersug, retired professor of anatomy and neurobiology and an expert on the psychology of castration:
“So much of this is not consistent with biology. Grey Worm would not have gone through puberty. He’d be taller than any of the men around. He would have a larger chest, knock-kneed deformities, no facial hair, no body hair, although plenty of hair on his head, and a loud, high-pitched voice. Historically, eunuchs were warriors — but they were strategists. They planned the war. They were generals. The problem of making the Unsullied into automaton child warriors is that they would not make good soldiers. The lack of testosterone would slow them down. If you castrated them as kids, they would have less muscle mass to use swords and spears, and by denying them an identity and denying them maternal care, they would have been so damaged. All of that aside, there’s no question that sex drive does go down with castration, but that doesn’t necessarily mean one is asexual. He wouldn’t have a lot of testosterone, he’d have a little from his adrenal glands. 

It's not real. There's dragons and you're worried about the accuracy of some guy losing his meat and veg...

thumpingrug

Ive been away or the past week and only just seen the final episode.  Ok we all knew this season was rushed and the writing was not like that of the first series etc etc...

With that out of the way, I thought the end was a fitting way to bring it to a close.   

The show started with the Starkes and ended with then, pretty much getting what the wanted in season one. Sansa the Queen, Arya the explorer and Jon got his family.    

Its been a great show from the opening episode and I am very sorry that is over.

So...what the next thing for us to watch?