Line 6 Helix

PolarityMan

Is that 4 loops?

rossyamaha

PolarityMan;726295" said:

Is that 4 loops?

Yes it has 4 loops so if you have some pedals you simply can't live without (as I do) you can still incorporate them into the rig.

Drew_TNBD

Helix + H9 is my plan!

rossyamaha

@digitalscream scrap that. Paul just told me effects can be set momentary but at the moment you can't set the control functions that way. Possibly something you'll be able to do on a future update but like we always say, no promises. ;-)

digitalscream

rossyamaha said:

@digitalscream scrap that. Paul just told me effects can be set momentary but at the moment you can't set the control functions that way. Possibly something you'll be able to do on a future update but like we always say, no promises. ;-)

OK, good to know - thanks

Drew_TNBD

@Digital_Igloo @rossyamaha

On the Helix website there is an image of the screen with a patch called 'Dream Rig Duet' loaded, which has 14 blocks in it. Is this a legit patch, or just something whipped up in photoshop/premiere as an example? What I mean to ask is... can it run all 14 of those blocks at once?

I know some patches are going to be limited in terms of number of blocks, based on available DSP resources, but I'm wondering what a typical average amount of blocks would be for patches that a: don't use any amps or cabs, and b: only use one amp and one impulse response.

Aidanspaghetti

Fortheloveofguitar said:

rossyamaha;725225" said:

Heads up folks. More of tha toanz!  

Sounds great. Big fan of his playing too

Nobody commenting on the rack mounted model behind his left shoulder?!

Drew_TNBD

Aidanspaghetti said:

Nobody commenting on the rack mounted model behind his left shoulder?!

It's not new really. We knew about it when Helix was announced.

chrispy108

The guitarist from Twelve Foot Ninja has one: https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xap1/v/t1.0-9/11828700_10153405371811438_1195096655958194346_n.jpg?oh=1a2fe0889c94fdcef86b181d421da6aa&oe=564D3657

Teetonetal

Hmm, am I missing something? It doesn't seem (through youtube compression and headphones) to sound much better than anything else...

hugbot

Well today I'm writing with a PODHD and it sounds, y'know good. Like a recorded amp. Could sound better if I was better at production but thats my own limitation.

Short of literally sending out pixies to suck my dick I'm not sure how much of an improvement would be noticable or really necessary. I hope for the Helix to improve on cabs. effects and "feel" but its not a massive jump at this point.

Drew_TNBD

Teetonetal said:

Hmm, am I missing something?

Yes. Ignore the sounds even... and just look at it from a workflow and features perspective. Ever wanted a TC G-System on acid? This is it.

Teetonetal

Drew_fx said:

Teetonetal said:

Hmm, am I missing something?

Yes. Ignore the sounds even... and just look at it from a workflow and features perspective. Ever wanted a TC G-System on acid? This is it.

Interesting.. will have to look further then...

Digital_Igloo

Drew_fx said:

@Digital_Igloo @rossyamaha

On the Helix website there is an image of the screen with a patch called 'Dream Rig Duet' loaded, which has 14 blocks in it. Is this a legit patch, or just something whipped up in photoshop/premiere as an example? What I mean to ask is... can it run all 14 of those blocks at once?

I know some patches are going to be limited in terms of number of blocks, based on available DSP resources, but I'm wondering what a typical average amount of blocks would be for patches that a: don't use any amps or cabs, and b: only use one amp and one impulse response.

Generally, if you use two amps and two cabs (or two IRs), that'll eat up almost one of the two DSPs. We made "Dream Rig Duet" to look pretty—it doesn't sound pretty!—but you should be able to get more than 14 blocks, depending on what models you use. If you go whole hog and add four Amp+Cab blocks, don't expect to get more than an effect or two. Unless you really like EQs and volume pedals.

welshboyo

OK, I'm in the "fortunate" position having sold some gear of getting one of these at launch...(its going to be hard not spending the money, but I think from the demos etc its going to be worth it)

This will be my first step into the fully digital world and hope some of you techies can answer a few things !! Bear in mind I'm a gigging guitarist rather than a recording/studio-use player

1. Is it totally pointless getting a Helix to only run it 4CM into a combo (basically bypassing the amp sims)

2. Would I be better running it into a Matrix amp and cab and using the Sims?

3. One for @Digital_Igloo - whats the support going to be like for this product - just thinking about the M Series which I had for a little while - numerous switch problems, power supply problems etc, none of which were ever properly solved by Line 6 - is this Helix in a different league build-wise? Is there going to be a UK based Line 6 tech repair/warranty centre for these on launch?

4. What would you guys go for? Rack or Floor? My thoughts are floor space at gigs..am I going to end up with a pedal board the size of NASA ground control again if I go floor mount + a few pedals in the loops? I did this with the G System for a while and the real estate required on stage was ridicluous!!  My heart says Rack + poweramp in SKB on top of a nice 2x12 cab with 1 cable out to floorboard....is this how it would work? (similar to G System) more expensive going the rack route but just think it may be beneficial down the line..

Drew_TNBD

Digital_Igloo said:

Drew_fx said:

@Digital_Igloo @rossyamaha

On the Helix website there is an image of the screen with a patch called 'Dream Rig Duet' loaded, which has 14 blocks in it. Is this a legit patch, or just something whipped up in photoshop/premiere as an example? What I mean to ask is... can it run all 14 of those blocks at once?

I know some patches are going to be limited in terms of number of blocks, based on available DSP resources, but I'm wondering what a typical average amount of blocks would be for patches that a: don't use any amps or cabs, and b: only use one amp and one impulse response.

Generally, if you use two amps and two cabs (or two IRs), that'll eat up almost one of the two DSPs. We made "Dream Rig Duet" to look pretty—it doesn't sound pretty!—but you should be able to get more than 14 blocks, depending on what models you use. If you go whole hog and add four Amp+Cab blocks, don't expect to get more than an effect or two. Unless you really like EQs and volume pedals.

Cool, cheers.

This is what I'm envisioning, aside from the fact that "at launch" the Helix will be missing a few of these:
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/630473/BoardNeeds.jpg

Bron_Yr_Aur

There's another new silly video up:

Drew_TNBD

Dangling Platypus are AWESOME!

Gianni

but I did not understand if there is a delay loop in Helix ???

Drew_TNBD

The Design Guy looks a bit like @Octatonic.