EU Referendum Vote - Poll

thomasross20

Emp_Fab said:

The Tories have the blame for this squarely at their doorstep. I genuinely believe that immigration is one of, if not THE main reason for people's discontent with the EU. If they had tackled people's concerns seriously instead of offering verbal platitudes and inaction, most folk would have been happy to stay in the EU - certainly more than enough to change the vote outcome.

They did very little, acted like they were there by divine right and could lord it over the electorate. Cameron will pay the price now.

I agree (not necessarily the Tories - Labour are worse!!!). Not that that is my main issue - I just agree with what you're saying. 

This was the only time people had to do anything about it - they weren't not going to not take the chance. 

I realise a lot of people have a vested interest financially in staying in but there are other factors. 

Maybe some actual change might happen - change that they should have implemented some time ago. 

I should add we get a lot of excellent degree-educated engineers to work for us from Europe and I would still like to work there in future. However, full disclosure... I didn't have the chance to vote (lost my voting card!) but would have voted leave.

fields5069

thomasross20 said:

Emp_Fab said:

The Tories have the blame for this squarely at their doorstep. I genuinely believe that immigration is one of, if not THE main reason for people's discontent with the EU. If they had tackled people's concerns seriously instead of offering verbal platitudes and inaction, most folk would have been happy to stay in the EU - certainly more than enough to change the vote outcome.

They did very little, acted like they were there by divine right and could lord it over the electorate. Cameron will pay the price now.

I agree (not necessarily the Tories - Labour are worse!!!). Not that that is my main issue - I just agree with what you're saying. 

This was the only time people had to do anything about it - they weren't not going to not take the chance. 

I realise a lot of people have a vested interest financially in staying in but there are other factors. 

Maybe some actual change might happen - change that they should have implemented some time ago. 

I should add we get a lot of excellent degree-educated engineers to work for us from Europe and I would still like to work there in future. However, full disclosure... I didn't have the chance to vote (lost my voting card!) but would have voted leave.

Do you need that to vote in Scotland? That's an odd one, I lost mine too so just gave my name and address, bingo.

Drew_TNBD

Emp_Fab said:

The Tories have the blame for this squarely at their doorstep. I genuinely believe that immigration is one of, if not THE main reason for people's discontent with the EU. If they had tackled people's concerns seriously instead of offering verbal platitudes and inaction, most folk would have been happy to stay in the EU - certainly more than enough to change the vote outcome.

They did very little, acted like they were there by divine right and could lord it over the electorate. Cameron will pay the price now.

People don't like the fact that their communities have changed completely over the years.

And Londoners and city folk wont understand that one at all. But that is a huge sentiment around the UK.

thomasross20

FYI folks, no need for insults and all that... we're all grown up

Drew_TNBD

It was worth voting Leave just to piss of Gassage.

Bogwhoppit

This is going to bang on for quite a while isn't it.

thomasross20

Looks like Scotland was Remain 62%.

As long as folk remain calm. Tempers really flared during the Independence vote (at least to my eyes) and lots of sulking all round. If I get booted from work and my savings shrink, so what. Might be a boot to do something else.

Drew_TNBD

Well, I've been awake 20minutes and already been called an asshole and lost what I thought was a pretty good friendship. C'est la vie.

thomasross20

That's why I generally don't comment on things like politics.

thomasross20

TBH I think this is the way most of Europe is going, anyway. 

ICBM

Very worrying. I'm glad I got my holiday money yesterday...

I'm also worried that only 37% voted for it, and 28% didn't vote.

thomasross20

Looks like I'll be holidaying in Aberdeen lol

Drew_TNBD

thomasross20 said:

That's why I generally don't comment on things like politics.

See here's what I've seen the past day or so - lots and lots of 'I'm In' Remain badges. Lots and lots of "if you vote leave you're a twat/wanker/right wing cunt" accusations and what I'm seeing right now on Facebook is "THE SKY IS FALLING DOWN!" and "YOU RIGHT WING CUNTS!"

Remainers are dead angry right now. And justifiably so. Part of their echochamber has just been destroyed.

thomasross20

Drew_fx said:

thomasross20 said:

That's why I generally don't comment on things like politics.

See here's what I've seen the past day or so - lots and lots of 'I'm In' Remain badges. Lots and lots of "if you vote leave you're a twat/wanker/right wing cunt" accusations and what I'm seeing right now on Facebook is "THE SKY IS FALLING DOWN!" and "YOU RIGHT WING CUNTS!"

Remainers are dead angry right now. And justifiably so. Part of their echochamber has just been destroyed.

I know many wont agree but I saw the same thing with folk in the Scottish Independence vote.

DanR

Out of interest did you vote in or out in the independence?

Bogwhoppit

My daughter is being attacked as a racist ill-educated bitch by fellow students. She was quite moderate in her argument for leaving, and immigration is not an issue for her.

Political civil war will be the order of the day I fear

Drew_TNBD

Bogwhoppit said:

My daughter is being attacked as a racist ill-educated bitch by fellow students. She was quite moderate in her argument for leaving, and immigration is not an issue for her.

Political civil war will be the order of the day I fear

Immigration isn't a massive issue for me either. But I can see how it is for the vast majority of the small England hamlets out there.

thomasross20

DanR said:

Out of interest did you vote in or out in the independence?

Neither, I put a spoiled vote in, leaning toward a no. But spoiled vote.

thomasross20

Bogwhoppit said:

My daughter is being attacked as a racist ill-educated bitch by fellow students. She was quite moderate in her argument for leaving, and immigration is not an issue for her.

Political civil war will be the order of the day I fear

People are emotional and stupid. Sorry to hear about potential problems.

Bogwhoppit

Drew_fx said:

Bogwhoppit said:

My daughter is being attacked as a racist ill-educated bitch by fellow students. She was quite moderate in her argument for leaving, and immigration is not an issue for her.

Political civil war will be the order of the day I fear

Immigration isn't a massive issue for me either. But I can see how it is for the vast majority of the small England hamlets out there.

I was looking at BBC's voting map, and its clear places in East of England highly affected by migration have voted in the high 60's, even the odd 70% to leave.