Guitarist-isms that make you cringe

Andy79

A resonant guitar acoustically will be good plugged in. It’s bollox. 

springhead

Hurling_Fruitmig said:

Tannin said:

"Guys" has been gender-inclusive for many years. You are free to dislike it (I'm not mad keen on it myself, it smacks of Americanism) but you can freely use it to all-female, all-male, and mixed audiences.

Based on anecdotal evidence from a friend who works in a specialist training environment, you really can’t.

We’ve got a female manager who always addresses us , a mixed male and female team, as guys. 

Blueingreen

None of it makes me cringe.

DeeTee said:

Calling guitars "she." It sounds weird, and a bit creepy. 

I remember reading a newspaper serialisation from a book by Desmond Morris (The Naked Ape guy, although I think this was from a later book) in which argued that the traditional Spanish guitar represented a woman's body but in the modern era the shape of the electric guitar had been morphed to represent a penis.  I'm not suggesting that the idea should be taken very seriously, but there's enough plausibility in it to add an extra layer of absurdity to people calling their Strats "she".

Anacharsis

I'm an American. Yes, a lot of the more absurd guitarist-isms got started over here. I try to avoid them.

I grew up a nerdy kid around beefy, gun-toting, weightlifting, muscle car/giant truck-driving, big motorcycle-riding people. That's why I vehemently agree with the previous poster who noted that the language used to "macho up" guitar is the most eye roll-inducing. "The axe is totally killer, so I pulled the trigger. It's a beast plugged into the big iron." Yeesh.

For me, music is a way to get away from that mess.

DeeTee

Blueingreen said:

None of it makes me cringe.

DeeTee said:

Calling guitars "she." It sounds weird, and a bit creepy. 

I remember reading a newspaper serialisation from a book by Desmond Morris (The Naked Ape guy, although I think this was from a later book) in which argued that the traditional Spanish guitar represented a woman's body but in the modern era the shape of the electric guitar had been morphed to represent a penis.  I'm not suggesting that the idea should be taken very seriously, but there's enough plausibility in it to add an extra layer of absurdity to people calling their Strats "she".

See, every part of that seems like nonsense to me. Spanish guitars are curved because that's where your arm goes. If it was all straight lines, it would be as comfortable as wooden trousers.

I'm deeply cynical about people retroactively claiming design purposes on things. If Desmond's penis looks like a Strat, he needs to see a doctor. 

prowla

If you are looking at this, then you will know ...

You don't need me to tell you ...

Needs no introduction ...

(So basically if you don't know, you can sod off!)

Bigsby

DeeTee said:

Calling guitars "she." It sounds weird, and a bit creepy. 

I always address mine as 'guys', as in 'this guy plays like buttah. Best axe I've got. Hand made in America, like all good Lesters'.




I'll get me coat...

MikkiMcMurderer

Why did the scarecrow win a prize?

Because he was out standing in his field.

60cycles

Andy79 said:

A resonant guitar acoustically will be good plugged in. It’s bollox. 

As in you've come across a fair number of guitars that showed clear signs of good sustain, had that extra lively riiiiing played unplugged; but sucked plugged in?
Did you ever try different pickups in them?

As to the term "she", i don't see what's wrong with it.
Except the poster complaining showing his age, insecurities or own predilections maybe..
It's often used to show endearment; or did before the world invented 4 new genders, a couple of new sexes and the Offendotron race.
Rather than condemning or altering a word/term's connotations as befits each generation, may we stick to what's implied by it? And whether it's meant positively or derogatively?

DeeTee

60cycles said:

Andy79 said:

A resonant guitar acoustically will be good plugged in. It’s bollox. 

As in you've come across a fair number of guitars that showed clear signs of good sustain, had that extra lively riiiiing played unplugged; but sucked plugged in?
Did you ever try different pickups in them?

As to the term "she", i don't see what's wrong with it.
Except the poster complaining showing his age, insecurities or own predilections maybe..
It's often used to show endearment; or did before the world invented 4 new genders, a couple of new sexes and the Offendotron race.
Rather than condemning or altering a word/term's connotations as befits each generation, may we stick to what's implied by it? And whether it's meant positively or derogatively?

I have no idea why you felt the need to make snide personal comments. I also don't understand where I've said it's offensive, or why you need to bring your own personal hobby horses about gender into it.

The thread is about stuff that makes you cringe. I said that this particular thing is a bit weird. You made it into something else, but I'm the one projecting? 

prowla

The use of “she” makes me cringe. 

To the point that I stop looking at a for sale post as soon as it’s mentioned. 

prowla

“Plays like butter” makes me think I’ll have to wipe my hands after. 

Rocky1991

Got a couple,

When People chase tone with no concept of how it fits in a mix (Lived it)

Inspired by previous comment on TPS, when people won't consider Digital/Solidstate because they didn't like Digitech in the 90's.

Rocky1991

Third opinion, might get slated but oh well. 

ignoring the fact raising or lowering your pickup height 0.25cm will have more of an effect on the tone of a guitar. Than most things people say is the reason their guitar sounds great.  

guitarjack66

springhead said:

Hurling_Fruitmig said:

Tannin said:

"Guys" has been gender-inclusive for many years. You are free to dislike it (I'm not mad keen on it myself, it smacks of Americanism) but you can freely use it to all-female, all-male, and mixed audiences.

Based on anecdotal evidence from a friend who works in a specialist training environment, you really can’t.

We’ve got a female manager who always addresses us , a mixed male and female team, as guys. 

I find the word 'Guys' when used to a mixed group sounds extremely patronising. Maybe that's because the first time I heard it used that way was on the telly by the extremely annoying Davina McCall in some crappy programme the wife was watching?

Offset

guitarjack66 said:

springhead said:

Hurling_Fruitmig said:

Tannin said:

"Guys" has been gender-inclusive for many years. You are free to dislike it (I'm not mad keen on it myself, it smacks of Americanism) but you can freely use it to all-female, all-male, and mixed audiences.

Based on anecdotal evidence from a friend who works in a specialist training environment, you really can’t.

We’ve got a female manager who always addresses us , a mixed male and female team, as guys. 

I find the word 'Guys' when used to a mixed group sounds extremely patronising. Maybe that's because the first time I heard it used that way was on the telly by the extremely annoying Davina McCall in some crappy programme the wife was watching?

I'll admit there is a whiff of Gus Hedges about it...

springhead

guitarjack66 said:

springhead said:

Hurling_Fruitmig said:

Tannin said:

"Guys" has been gender-inclusive for many years. You are free to dislike it (I'm not mad keen on it myself, it smacks of Americanism) but you can freely use it to all-female, all-male, and mixed audiences.

Based on anecdotal evidence from a friend who works in a specialist training environment, you really can’t.

We’ve got a female manager who always addresses us , a mixed male and female team, as guys. 

I find the word 'Guys' when used to a mixed group sounds extremely patronising. Maybe that's because the first time I heard it used that way was on the telly by the extremely annoying Davina McCall in some crappy programme the wife was watching?

guitarjack66 said:

springhead said:

Hurling_Fruitmig said:

Tannin said:

"Guys" has been gender-inclusive for many years. You are free to dislike it (I'm not mad keen on it myself, it smacks of Americanism) but you can freely use it to all-female, all-male, and mixed audiences.

Based on anecdotal evidence from a friend who works in a specialist training environment, you really can’t.

We’ve got a female manager who always addresses us , a mixed male and female team, as guys. 

I find the word 'Guys' when used to a mixed group sounds extremely patronising. Maybe that's because the first time I heard it used that way was on the telly by the extremely annoying Davina McCall in some crappy programme the wife was watching?

Yeah I don’t like it either. And she says it so often. Properly grates.  

hollywoodrox

I have no problem with axe , being a teen in the 80s reading kerrang  and being a fan of 80s , sleaze rock and hair metal  it sits comfortably with me 

ICBM

Rocky1991 said:

When People chase tone with no concept of how it fits in a mix

Which is especially ludicrous when you think about it... because the tones people are chasing are all ones they've heard famous players use *in a mix*, whether on record or live.

And in fact, in isolation quite often sound different from what everyone thinks they do, let alone how the original amp sounded in the room before it was mic'ed and EQ'd at the desk.

thegummy

60cycles said:

Andy79 said:

A resonant guitar acoustically will be good plugged in. It’s bollox. 

As in you've come across a fair number of guitars that showed clear signs of good sustain, had that extra lively riiiiing played unplugged; but sucked plugged in?
Did you ever try different pickups in them?

As to the term "she", i don't see what's wrong with it.
Except the poster complaining showing his age, insecurities or own predilections maybe..
It's often used to show endearment; or did before the world invented 4 new genders, a couple of new sexes and the Offendotron race.
Rather than condemning or altering a word/term's connotations as befits each generation, may we stick to what's implied by it? And whether it's meant positively or derogatively?

Lol I don't think anyone who cringes at "she" finds it offensive, it's more that it's what Alan Partridge would call his guitar.