I've never really got...../Well have a listen to this then.......

dindude

Inspired by Big John's "fast guitarists..." thread whereby it's clear he is a big Alan Holdsworth fan and yet I stated I've never really "got" him. I then thought back to someone recently saying they didn't get Jeff Beck (I think it was Sticky), who is one of the greatest IMO. So hows about this as a thread:

1. Someone states a well known Guitarist (let's stick to Guitar Players for now rather than artists / bands) that they just really have never understood the love for.

2. Then someone else (hopefully a fan!) posts one YouTube vid, for one song (with a few comments/pointers maybe) that they would pick to sum up what is good about said Guitarist, to convince them otherwise.

3. Commitment from the original "never really got" person is they will listen to the clip in full with an open mind and comment.

Rules: No other people can post alternatives once someone has posted a video, this is in order to avoid a stream of peoples fav Jef Beck/Alan Holdsworth clips coming through etc. Simply move on to the next "never really got...post"

The idea is to enlighten / debate, rather than argue.

Anyone up for this......?

maltingsaudio

Yeah I'll start with Nick Drake

stickyfiddle

Good idea (and yep, never got Beck at all on a musical/emotional level). I would post a vid if I had the faintest clue about Nick Drake!

not_the_dj

maltingsaudio said:

Yeah I'll start with Nick Drake

@maltingsaudio

I'll try that then. No really footage, but this is one of my favorite ND tracks (it was either this or Northern Sky). Focusing on the guitar you'll find his open tunned finger picking that flow through the track, but really it's about how that sits with the string arrangement from Robert Kirby and Peggy's bass. A beautiful piece of music IMO

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ze5Bktb2jiQ

 

dindude

stickyfiddle said:

Good idea (and yep, never got Beck at all on a musical/emotional level). I would post a vid if I had the faintest clue about Nick Drake!

Here you go then Sticky, not sure you actually chucked Beck in the ring officially, but you've got it anyway!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VC02wGj5gPw

ddlooping

I never got Kirk Hammet.

dindude

ddlooping said:

I never got Kirk Hammet.

I forgot to say, if nobody rushes to said Guitarists defence, then you receive a wisdom from me for being right in the first place. I've no idea why Kirk Hammet triggered this thought.

ddlooping

dindude said:

ddlooping said:

I never got Kirk Hammet.

I forgot to say, if nobody rushes to said Guitarists defence, then you receive a wisdom from me for being right in the first place. I've no idea why Kirk Hammet triggered this thought.

Whoop, whoop!

maltingsaudio

@not_the_dj Lovely track thanks for that but very derivative of Richard Thompson et al but have never got what all the fuss is about,him especially as a lot of younger acoustic players I've come across seem to venerate him

not_the_dj

Derivative of RT? They were contemporaries (that track is from his second album released in 1970). He did the whole dying young thing though, so that always helps a career in music (as he sold pretty much nothing during his life time).

stickyfiddle

dindude said:

stickyfiddle said:

Good idea (and yep, never got Beck at all on a musical/emotional level). I would post a vid if I had the faintest clue about Nick Drake!

Here you go then Sticky, not sure you actually chucked Beck in the ring officially, but you've got it anyway!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VC02wGj5gPw

Cheers. I've actually watched most of the Ronnie Scott's gig before, and I understand why people love him, but it leaves me cold. There's obviously a phenomenal amount of talent there, but he doesn't use it to play anything I want to listen to. I think the 80's schmaltz-synth doesn't help. Combine with no singer and bass-shred and I'm out!

dindude

Yeah, I kinda get that, I sometimes wish Beck had a better vehicle for his playing rather than just the instrumental stuff, but when he plays he owns every note. I think the band at the Ronnie Scott's gig are great, drummer especially.

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dindude;11317" said:

Yeah, I kinda get that, I sometimes wish Beck had a better vehicle for his playing rather than just the instrumental stuff, but when he plays he owns every note. I think the band at the Ronnie Scott's gig are great, drummer especially.

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richardhomer;11350" said:

[quote="dindude;11317"] I think the band at the Ronnie Scott's gig are great, drummer especially.

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Vinnie Coliuta. Genius player....

John_P

stickyfiddle said:

Cheers. I've actually watched most of the Ronnie Scott's gig before, and I understand why people love him, but it leaves me cold. There's obviously a phenomenal amount of talent there, but he doesn't use it to play anything I want to listen to. I think the 80's schmaltz-synth doesn't help. Combine with no singer and bass-shred and I'm out!

+1  I always feel I should like Jeff Beck  - the playing is wonderful but it just doesn't move me and I'm really struggling to see how that bass solo fitted the song although I appreciate she is good. 

dindude

I think they were just jazzing it up a bit more as it was at Ronnies. I've seen Beck under more normal circumstances and there are def no bass solos!

[Deleted User]

One of the most interesting things about the Ronnie Scott's gig is clocking who's in the audience. I've spotted Page & Plant, Brian May & Mark Knopfler so far....

randomhandclaps

 

ddlooping said:

I never got Kirk Hammet.

Kirk Hammett appears to have the guitar playing version of the Benjamin Button syndrome.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=546KjKMB9kw

dindude

That's very funny, I bet he's just thinking "when can I get on my Wah Wah"

not_the_dj

I've not actually heard much by him, but what I have hasn't really grabbed me. So can someone explain... 

 Mark Tremonti

ddlooping

dindude said:

ddlooping said:

I never got Kirk Hammet.

I forgot to say, if nobody rushes to said Guitarists defence, then you receive a wisdom from me for being right in the first place. I've no idea why Kirk Hammet triggered this thought.

A video has been posted.