I've never really got...../Well have a listen to this then.......

monquixote

maltingsaudio said:

@not_the_dj Lovely track thanks for that but very derivative of Richard Thompson et al but have never got what all the fuss is about,him especially as a lot of younger acoustic players I've come across seem to venerate him

Interesting tunings and interesting time signatures and singing in a very English way which was rare at the time. It's about the songwriting and great arrangements as much as the guitar playing.

Also I think dying young and being discovered later helps.

Bucket

not_the_dj said:

I've not actually heard much by him, but what I have hasn't really grabbed me. So can someone explain... 

 Mark Tremonti

Try the solo at 5:15:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yz_j7nVCJJ0

He's technically superb, but actually writes solos that are much more heartfelt and emotionally-charged than you often hear from "shredders"... the way he opens the solo with a series of big bends but keeps the energy going throughout, building to even more of a climax, makes it a very exciting solo IMO.

And @stickyfiddle - have a listen to this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cGfDslwCYAc

I just think it's great, particularly as he climbs the fretboard. The last minute or so really is fantastic. His tone and vibrato are among the most awesome I've ever heard... and his control of the guitar is breathtaking, the way he is so skilful at varying his touch, manipulating the trem and volume control and so on... 

ddlooping

@Bucket

dindude said:

Rules: No other people can post alternatives once someone has posted a video, this is in order to avoid a stream of peoples fav Jef Beck/Alan Holdsworth clips coming through etc.

You've been Facepalmed. :P

dindude

ddlooping said:

dindude said:

ddlooping said:

I never got Kirk Hammet.

I forgot to say, if nobody rushes to said Guitarists defence, then you receive a wisdom from me for being right in the first place. I've no idea why Kirk Hammet triggered this thought.

A video has been posted.

Yes and I hope it convinced you to take Kirk a little more seriously

stickyfiddle

@Bucket

Nessun Dorma needs words (and frankly, Pavarotti singing them!). Again, Beck's total control of the instrument of astonishing, but the material just doesn't work imo. Put him in a proper band with a singer and I'd be interested.

not_the_dj

stickyfiddle said:

@Bucket

Nessun Dorma needs words (and frankly, Pavarotti singing them!). Again, Beck's total control of the instrument of astonishing, but the material just doesn't work imo. Put him in a proper band with a singer and I'd be interested.

@stickyfiddle you need to listen to the early Jeff Beck Group then. He had some chap called Rod singing with him, and quite possibly gave a few ideas to the Page bloke who was just starting to inflate his zeppelin.

monquixote

not_the_dj said:

@stickyfiddle you need to listen to the early Jeff Beck Group then. He had some chap called Rod singing with him, and quite possibly gave a few ideas to the Page bloke who was just starting to inflate his zeppelin.

Inded "Truth" is the album for people who don't "get" Beck. Though he is a totally differnt beast in those days and without being told I'm not sure you would know it was the same guy playing. 

There is a lot of cross pollination with early Zep, but the "Page stole all his ideas from Beck" claims are total balls.

dindude

I too was interested in Tremonti - I quite like that solo @Bucket, but I couldn't get into the music.

not_the_dj

Bucket said:

not_the_dj said:

I've not actually heard much by him, but what I have hasn't really grabbed me. So can someone explain... 

 Mark Tremonti

Try the solo at 5:15:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yz_j7nVCJJ0

He's technically superb, but actually writes solos that are much more heartfelt and emotionally-charged than you often hear from "shredders"... the way he opens the solo with a series of big bends but keeps the energy going throughout, building to even more of a climax, makes it a very exciting solo IMO.

 

@Bucket

I've given that a good listen. To me the short solo directly before the 5:15 one (starting at 4:37) grabs me more. Much more melodic (and I prefer the tone). I'm guessing that's not Tremonti. The singer plays as well doesn't he, is that him? Shame I don't like his voice that much!

My favorite part in the whole song is actually the breakdown between 3:22 and 4:00 (although that bass run at the end of that section really reminds me of a run Pete Trewavas does in a Marillion song, just can't place which one...it'll come to me in a while I'm sure 

 

 

Bucket

not_the_dj said:

@Bucket

I've given that a good listen. To me the short solo directly before the 5:15 one (starting at 4:37) grabs me more. Much more melodic (and I prefer the tone). I'm guessing that's not Tremonti. The singer plays as well doesn't he, is that him? Shame I don't like his voice that much!

My favorite part in the whole song is actually the breakdown between 3:22 and 4:00 (although that bass run at the end of that section really reminds me of a run Pete Trewavas does in a Marillion song, just can't place which one...it'll come to me in a while I'm sure 

Yes, that first solo is Myles Kennedy - also really good. Mark's solo is a little more flamboyant, which is usually what grabs me!

historyisjunk

Pete Doherty...

Lixarto

historyisjunk said:

Pete Doherty...

Don't bother - he is without merit, believe me.

monquixote

historyisjunk said:

Pete Doherty...

Would only play 1960's or earlier guitars and would smash them up when he was bored of them. 

I'd never get tired of punching him in the face. 

Lixarto

monquixote said: I'd never get tired of punching him in the face. 

Do you mind? There's a queue

EricTheWeary

If anyone wants to post a Mark Knopfler track that doesn't want to make me poke myself in the eye with a broken biro I will give it a go. I get that he is a distinctive and skilled guitarist and have watched documentaries about him, read the Guitarist interviews,etc, but the songs are so bloody lifeless. I will grant Money for Nothing as a truly great guitar riff but it is attached to a horrible production and a hateful lyric. If anyone is up to the challenge I shall check back in later ( insert smiley, as I haven't found out where they are yet and hate change).

IanSavage

EricTheWeary said:

If anyone wants to post a Mark Knopfler track that doesn't want to make me poke myself in the eye with a broken biro I will give it a go. I get that he is a distinctive and skilled guitarist and have watched documentaries about him, read the Guitarist interviews,etc, but the songs are so bloody lifeless. I will grant Money for Nothing as a truly great guitar riff but it is attached to a horrible production and a hateful lyric. If anyone is up to the challenge I shall check back in later ( insert smiley, as I haven't found out where they are yet and hate change).

You CAN'T not like this song, it's physically impossible. 

randomhandclaps

I've always though this made Mark Knopfler a passable budget range Gilmour.  Not phenomenal but certainly not as grating as his contrived Chet Atkins tribute. 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fb_Jzgnrpv8

Bucket

Lixarto said:

monquixote said: I'd never get tired of punching him in the face. 

Do you mind? There's a queue

When a man is tired of hitting Pete Doherty in the face with a large wrench, he is tired of life.

ddlooping

@randomhandclaps, you broke the rule. :P

randomhandclaps

Blah!!!!!  Kid's distracted me and I spent an age typing.  I shall repent.

Knopfler certainly didn't deserve two videos.