Erm... Brexiteers? Is this something we knew about?

ToneControl

Garthy said:

marantz1300 said:

mmy children are educated.
my daughter did her degree ,masters and PHD
at Imperial .
she's an entomologist doing resurch for a company in Oxford.
my son's finishing his PHD in partical physics at CERN in switzerland.
The big collider.
 they have both seen people they studied with who didn't acheived firsts
getting fast tracked and promoted who came from more elite backgrounds then their own.

Nepotism and an old boys club is not exclusive to the elite. Who you know not what you know can be heard uttered in many walks of life from train drivers to Fleet Street to offshore rigging etc.

true, my Mrs worked somewhere where the  best jobs were kept within certain families who worked for the factory (not owners), we are talking  £30k jobs in the  early 90s with long breaks every hour, just monitoring  machinery on a sweet production line

marantz1300

that must be why I never heard the plum in the mouth tones on a building site.

Garthy

marantz1300 said:

that must be why I never heard the plum in the mouth tones on a building site.

What's that got to do with anything?

ToneControl

marantz1300 said:

that must be why I never heard the plum in the mouth tones on a building site.

My mate went to  Settle school, to a very wealthy family
Thick brother became a stock broker
But my mate ended up, after a BSc and MSc , as a bus driver, then  in a  garden centre moving  plants around
So it doesn't always work 

But yes - privilege is  available for those with cash and connections, 
one of the reasons that messed-up qualification -awarding  bodies annoy me - they feed nepotism when they allow grades to be different over time or location, for  the same ability level

thomasw88

Evilmags said:

The UK has a perfectly valid counter claim on a lot more than 60bn of EU assets.

please explain how that works.

Fretwired

marantz1300 said:

mmy children are educated.
my daughter did her degree ,masters and PHD
at Imperial .
she's an entomologist doing resurch for a company in Oxford.
my son's finishing his PHD in partical physics at CERN in switzerland.
The big collider.
 they have both seen people they studied with who didn't acheived firsts
getting fast tracked and promoted who came from more elite backgrounds then their own.

In science?? I find that seriously odd. I get it with banking and commerce in general but I can't see why you'd ever want to employ a third rate scientist when getting funding depends on getting first class research and results which means employing the brightest and most capable. I'm not a scientist though ...

Garthy

Fretwired said:

marantz1300 said:

mmy children are educated.
my daughter did her degree ,masters and PHD
at Imperial .
she's an entomologist doing resurch for a company in Oxford.
my son's finishing his PHD in partical physics at CERN in switzerland.
The big collider.
 they have both seen people they studied with who didn't acheived firsts
getting fast tracked and promoted who came from more elite backgrounds then their own.

In science?? I find that seriously odd. I get it with banking and commerce in general but I can't see why you'd ever want to employ a third rate scientist when getting funding depends on getting first class research and results which means employing the brightest and most capable. I'm not a scientist though ...

https://www.insidehighered.com/news/2016/08/26/study-examines-role-family-ties-helping-scientists-advance

Scientists aren't as pure as you'd think.