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Hi... if you're on here Phil
(formerly miserneil)
Personally, unlike everyone else, I *do* have a problem with opportunist profiteering - especially when conducted by those who seek to screw you down to the lowest price all the time when you are selling.
But hey, I'm used to being a lone voice.
Loads of well established chain stores with physical premises will buy huge quantities of items at low prices (opportunistic) and then shift for a higher price.
Short form: "all profit is theft" - Karl Marx
"Take these three items, some WD-40, a vise grip, and a roll of duct tape. Any man worth his salt can fix almost any problem with this stuff alone." - Walt Kowalski
"Only two things are infinite - the universe, and human stupidity. And I'm not sure about the universe." - Albert Einstein
I don't have a problem with opportunistic profiteering I have a problem with lies.
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There have been a few instances of a couple of individuals snapping up guitars on here (and elsewhere) guzumping others, only for exactly the same guitar to appear on ebay within days - and habitually doing so.
Another low ball offers all the time, then crows about how cheap they got things in New Guitar/Amp/FX Day postings and then they appear in short order for significant profit on other outlets (Facebook)... and then gets arsey when you offer what you know they got it for (because they are so fucking thick they don't realise that some of us notice these things).
If you are buying something with a view to flipping it on for a profit, then that's different to buying something and realising its not for you. In that instance, that individual should be paying tax on their profit - I don't begrudge dealers a profit, we all gotta eat... but these people should come clean.
Greed *isn't* an attractive attribute.
Like I say, no-one's holding you at gunpoint forcing you to buy some overpriced junk.
Imagine how uncomfortable these guys must be in their bedrooms crowded with overpriced guitars that have been lying around for months, sometimes years, with hardly enough room to lay their noble heads.
Of course the other reason for all this criticism could be that we're all jealous of these guys. After all, isn't that why we all bitch and moan about people?
Deep down, we're driven by jealousy. It's a well known internet condition.
Good sales is consultative; it's about solving a customer's problem.
But assuming you're playing by the rules on that front, I don't think there's anything morally wrong about the 'opportunistic' circumstance of seeing something that's available for less than its market value and selling it on.
If you know the true market value of your car is £2,000 and you list it for £2,500 in the hope that you can sell it at that price, is that wrong? I don't see how it's any different to those listing guitars for a - shall we say 'rather hopeful' - markup.
In this day and age it's so easy for anyone with two brain cells to quickly establish a reasonable market value for most goods, unless incredibly niche, that you almost can't blame people for trying to prey on stupidity/laziness.
Pretty much all businesses do this to varying degrees - just look at the number of 'incredible Black Friday deals' that turn out to be as expensive or more than the day before! Amazing how many people are suckered in by putting a sticker that says 'SALE' on some overpriced tat
My feedback thread is here.
Imo gas isn't buying n selling ( that to some degree is dealing ).
Gas is when ur accumulating lots of gear but not really a collector n never really get rid of anything.
Everybody reading this can think of several examples of high end guitars and modest guitars that have been sold to other forum members for money that almost certainly represents only what the seller has spent - and probably takes no account of their own time and labour.
Long may it continue.