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I come in to threads like these from the side of "let's discuss and collectively make an educated guess as to what things are increasing the price that doesn't lead to a better guitar".
Generally when we're looking to buy something we have no expertise in, we look at a range available and assume that the more expensive choices are in some way better. By breaking down the costs, it gives a more useful way to judge comparitively based on price.
Discussing the higher wages that are paid to workers in America isn't a "lay off Fender, their hands are tied" kind of thing, it's more that if you take off the extra wages (and the premium for "made in America" that gets added on because people will pay for it) it would be more reliable to then compare the prices.
Purely as an example; if a £500 Fender is equal to a £500 Schecter guitar (who stick with the same factory), a £1000 Fender might only be equal to, say, a £800 Schecter.
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The 50's and 60's reissue models are p2p according to this https://guitar.com/news/gibson-new-2019-original-collection/
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From what I've seen and read the body blanks are graded accordingly for different models, but that doesn't guarantee a particular end result and there's always variation
"My cheap copy is better than a Gibson for a fraction of the price."
No it isn't - it might be nearly as good for a fraction of the price, but that's not the same thing.
"Anything other than a real Gibson is rubbish, don't waste your money."
No it isn't - while my personal opinion is that a Gibson does have some sort of indefinable 'something' to the feel and sound, that doesn't mean you can't get a very good guitar that isn't a Gibson.
And I have to say that if I want a Les Paul and I can afford a Gibson, I'm going to buy one, at whatever price point that happens to be. If I want a two-humbucker/glued-neck/etc guitar that doesn't have to be exactly a Les Paul then I might not...
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As for the actual 58s and 59s. They were on average in the same 8-9 range according to BOTB. To lump them in with the pancake Norlins as has been is misleading.
I've seen this pic many times, and it gets better every time. Stunning stuff @crunchman