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I still want a second 2x12, but I'm wondering if my best option is to get a second Mesa 2x12, rather than a different brand 2x12. The other options I'd be looking at would be Montage Pro, Zilla, or possibly Matamp, with V30s and full depth/width - the biggest differences are they'd be taller and have Chinese as opposed to Mesa spec English V30s. Well, that and a couple of hundred quid cheaper new which is not to be sniffed at. I'm concerned that they'd benefit from different settings and I think I just want to keep my switching the way it is to avoid gaps. It is hard to know if it'd really matter a lot but I don't really have an option to test mismatched V30 cabs, so I figure playing it safe is the best option. I guess I'm just going to save up and keep an eye on eBay for a used Mesa 2x12.
The thing that annoys me is that new they come with covers and castors, yet on the used market they're usually missing one or both. They aren't even cheap second hand, and neither are replacement castors or a decent replacement cover (I think Hotcovers and Roqsolid covers are slightly better than the standard Mesa one, at the expense of not folding down as small).
Emulating the effects is one thing, but you probably don't need an Axe for that anyway. In a lot of cases a Line 6 M9/13, HD500(X) or Boss GT8/10/100 etc could give you enough effects. Emulating lots of tone changes probably also isn't the best idea, having a broadly consistent sound which is varied slightly as opposed to drastically is usually a better approach. The main reason you'd go digital for live is that you'd prefer the workflow all things considered. My Axe is my live solution and my recording solution, and it is much smaller, lighter and more practical than the 'real' rig I'd need for the same results.
Also you can't move 2 inches without being told to go FRFR on a modelling forum. It is like the PA companies have got moles in every forum community.... trust noone! >-) (first time I've had a use for that smiley).
My experience is similar to @guitarfishbay. Covers band, with a need for four basic amp sounds, and simple FX that I can switch without dancing. Some of the places we play are too small for more than a 1x12, both space and volume wise, so the ability to match the volume to the venue without losing tone is important. So I am interested in @Drew_fx 's experience, but am glad that I don't have to lug a 4x12 around. It works for me, but listening to his video (in another thread) I can see why it doesn't work for him.
As they've both said more than once: workflow is key. Very few guitarists have the luxury of a tech to switch effects, and when they do it's courtesy of a switching system that changes many settings simultaneously.
Am I rambling? That's what happens when you post from your phone over lunch
Cliff Chase (FAS boss) closed the thread, and I believe that the product designer has not posted on the forum ever since.
I also don't intend to go FRFR, and I don't intend to move away from 4x12's. I used to use a 2x12 live, and the difference is pretty drastic imho. I've heard 1x12's live and they don't cut it, especially in the places we play and the kind of music we play.
First result on Google for Jay Mitchell CLR brings up this inspired thread title (contains swearing). http://www.boutiquegeartalk.com/digital-amps-modeling-gear/12081.htm
Without going off on too much of a tangent... what the fuck is it with American guitar manufacturers and fanbois? They really are the worst.
Okay, that's totally a value judgement, but fuck... Mozart they aint!
I remember that... nasty bizniz
there does seem to be this "made in America" thing going on.. and a general feeling that if it's not American it can't possibly be good..
unless of course it's Ibanez, Marshall, Diezel, Engl, Laney, Roland - Boss, Yamaha, etc.. etc... etc... etc.... etc..
I know that this is probably a crass generalisation based on my experience, and it's probably a bit rich from someone who needs just one more guitar to reach self actualisation.