Gibson warning video over trademark infringements

GoldenEraGuitars

poopot said:

poopot said:

Here’s their current trademarks and such

https://www.gibson.com/Registered-Trademarks

Just noticed they have trademarked the phrases “les paul” and “les paul artisan”

wonder if you could get away with “les Paul type”... it’s not infringing on their trademark!...

You could call it “less Paul” as our American friends are incapable of saying “les”

guitars4you

poopot said:

Here’s their current trademarks and such

https://www.gibson.com/Registered-Trademarks

That is excellent info so thanks - but looking at the following
 ® (U.S. Reg. No. 2528669)

Then anyone, I should say everyone, who has built an acoustic guitar is surely guilty - Martin, Taylor, Guild etc etc etc etc


Yet the following trademarks are interesting

SNAKEPIT® (U.S. Reg. No. 3957037) - does Slash know ?
how about - HUMBUCKER - as Ash @OilCityPickups ; has pointed out

even crap items like DARK FIRE® (U.S. Reg. No. 3884397) - 

DUSK TIGER® (U.S. Reg. No. 3881696)

what about FRETLESS WONDER® (U.S. Reg. No. 0626204)

VINTAGE RE-ISSUE® (U.S. Reg. No. 1872419) - amazed you can register this 

axisus

LordOxygen

I've just seen the video on youtube this evening.
What a strange thing to do. I quite fancy a 355, but this has really put me off. 

pmbomb

any examples of these mythical instances of logos being taped over in films?

pmbomb

guitars4you said:

poopot said:

Here’s their current trademarks and such

https://www.gibson.com/Registered-Trademarks

That is excellent info so thanks - but looking at the following
 ® (U.S. Reg. No. 2528669)

Then anyone, I should say everyone, who has built an acoustic guitar is surely guilty - Martin, Taylor, Guild etc etc etc etc


Yet the following trademarks are interesting

SNAKEPIT® (U.S. Reg. No. 3957037) - does Slash know ?
how about - HUMBUCKER - as Ash @OilCityPickups ;; has pointed out

even crap items like DARK FIRE® (U.S. Reg. No. 3884397) - 

DUSK TIGER® (U.S. Reg. No. 3881696)

what about FRETLESS WONDER® (U.S. Reg. No. 0626204)

VINTAGE RE-ISSUE® (U.S. Reg. No. 1872419) - amazed you can register this 

my hunch is the bar for registration is low, the test is in enforcement.

HUMBUCKER's a fair trademark in my opinion (2 words that wouldn't usually have an association).

but VINTAGE RE-ISSUE is nonsense, too descriptive. Don't think that would get registered in the UK.

Philly_Q

zepp76 said:

I'd love a Dean Cadillac, Alex Skolnick from Testament used to rock one (don't know if he still does?) they are fantastic looking guitars and sound pretty damn good too.

Edit: I've searched the Internet but can't find anything on him actually playing one but I'm sure as hell that I've seen footage of him playing one.

I've always associated the Dean Cadillac with Sheron Alton from (the band) Toronto.  @FelineGuitars might remember them.

OilCityPickups

pmbomb said:

guitars4you said:

poopot said:

Here’s their current trademarks and such

https://www.gibson.com/Registered-Trademarks

That is excellent info so thanks - but looking at the following
 ® (U.S. Reg. No. 2528669)

Then anyone, I should say everyone, who has built an acoustic guitar is surely guilty - Martin, Taylor, Guild etc etc etc etc


Yet the following trademarks are interesting

SNAKEPIT® (U.S. Reg. No. 3957037) - does Slash know ?
how about - HUMBUCKER - as Ash @OilCityPickups ;; has pointed out

even crap items like DARK FIRE® (U.S. Reg. No. 3884397) - 

DUSK TIGER® (U.S. Reg. No. 3881696)

what about FRETLESS WONDER® (U.S. Reg. No. 0626204)

VINTAGE RE-ISSUE® (U.S. Reg. No. 1872419) - amazed you can register this 

my hunch is the bar for registration is low, the test is in enforcement.

HUMBUCKER's a fair trademark in my opinion (2 words that wouldn't usually have an association).

but VINTAGE RE-ISSUE is nonsense, too descriptive. Don't think that would get registered in the UK.

Apart from the fact that 'Humbucking Coil' was used years before in reference to telephones.

stimpsonslostson

Meanwhile, in the Fender legal dept:


;-)

That HAS to be an April fools joke... Surely!?!

pmbomb

OilCityPickups said:

pmbomb said:

my hunch is the bar for registration is low, the test is in enforcement.

HUMBUCKER's a fair trademark in my opinion (2 words that wouldn't usually have an association).

but VINTAGE RE-ISSUE is nonsense, too descriptive. Don't think that would get registered in the UK.

Apart from the fact that 'Humbucking Coil' was used years before in reference to telephones.

OK, maybe that changes it. My understanding is with trademarks that unregistered prior use doesn't prevent registration.

zepp76

Philly_Q said:

zepp76 said:

I'd love a Dean Cadillac, Alex Skolnick from Testament used to rock one (don't know if he still does?) they are fantastic looking guitars and sound pretty damn good too.

Edit: I've searched the Internet but can't find anything on him actually playing one but I'm sure as hell that I've seen footage of him playing one.

I've always associated the Dean Cadillac with Sheron Alton from (the band) Toronto.  @FelineGuitars might remember them.

It seems I was confused, it wasn't Alex Skolnick but Eric Peterson of Testament that played a Dean Cadillac. I knew I'd seen someone playing one as that's where I first clapped eyes on one.

https://i.imgur.com/pqR8GyV.jpg

OilCityPickups

stimpsonslostson said:

Meanwhile, in the Fender legal dept:


;-)

That HAS to be an April fools joke... Surely!?!

Sadly not

bodhi

Meanwhile, back at the factory, Gibson's QC department is busily doing what they do best:

https://www.mylespaul.com/threads/ngd-2019-original-collection-les-paul-junior-%E2%80%A2-finally-a-legit-jr.428187/page-5

baldy

Bully Guitars USA, Play Authentic Or Else !

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4aljGgg70Pg&feature=share&fbclid=IwAR1q3ZHHuK1BKcrr7Z96eVfOnF14tzdi8vcixyEWwgJfu85XN9Fey5a_GWI

Kittyfrisk

bodhi said:

Meanwhile, back at the factory, Gibson's QC department is busily doing what they do best:

https://www.mylespaul.com/threads/ngd-2019-original-collection-les-paul-junior-%E2%80%A2-finally-a-legit-jr.428187/page-5

Bloody hell, I have a Chibson that is better finished. You must be gutted 

prowla

stimpsonslostson said:

Meanwhile, in the Fender legal dept:


;-)

That HAS to be an April fools joke... Surely!?!

I think Fender trademarked the headstock but not the body shape, hence the various variations of headstock on copies.

https://patentsrockblog.wordpress.com/2015/11/26/spotlight-on-fender-trademarks/

However, Gibson releasing a Hendrix Strat-a-like was just idiocy!

Incidentally, the Flying V body isn't on Gibson's list, so the Dean Schenker ones are OK.

https://www.deanguitars.com/subcategory?series=michael_schenker_series

Lodious

Even if nothing else good comes from this whole debacle, I now have a new favourite insult courtesy of the Youtube comments....

Mark Agnesi is, and has always been, a nozzle.

Nozzle. I love that. 

Kittyfrisk

prowla said:

stimpsonslostson said:

Meanwhile, in the Fender legal dept:


;-)

That HAS to be an April fools joke... Surely!?!

I think Fender trademarked the headstock but not the body shape, hence the various variations of headstock on copies.

https://patentsrockblog.wordpress.com/2015/11/26/spotlight-on-fender-trademarks/

However, Gibson releasing a Hendrix Strat-a-like was just idiocy!

Incidentally, the Flying V body isn't on Gibson's list, so the Dean Schenker ones are OK.

https://www.deanguitars.com/subcategory?series=michael_schenker_series

'Incidentally, the Flying V body isn't on Gibson's list, so the Dean Schenker ones are OK.'

Are you sure? I'm not, but then I'm generally bewildered & bemused by the whole sorry affair.

'On 14 May 2019, Gibson filed a lawsuit against Armadillo in the US District Court For The Eastern District Of Texas. The lawsuit, which was later amended on 6 June, accused Armadillo of trademark infringement over the Flying V body shape, Explorer body shape, ES body shape as well as the Hummingbird and Moderne trademarks."

Kittyfrisk

Lodious said:

Even if nothing else good comes from this whole debacle, I now have a new favourite insult courtesy of the Youtube comments....

Mark Agnesi is, and has always been, a nozzle.

Nozzle. I love that. 

Bit insensitive to hard working nozzles everywhere.

mburekenge