Gibson warning video over trademark infringements

Bellycaster

They're re-uploading it on Youtube.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sdGvFngN9gA

hehe!

  

OilCityPickups

Bellycaster said:

They're re-uploading it on Youtube.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sdGvFngN9gA

hehe!

  

That's priceless :-)

Musicman20

The comments...

peteri

I really like this 'response' from the always excellent Leon Todd:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P7zwd9hWGUw&t=29s

A really clear and well thought out response.

In summary - this video shows that at the end of the day Gibson have not changed, we (as guitar players) all fell for the 'return to roots, authentic'  spin. But actually that was all marketing and at the end of the day it's the same Henry era Gibson with a different marketing approach.

Well worth a watch I think

Philly_Q

Musicman20 said:

Comments aside, WTF has a video of Cliff Burton playing Arias and Rickenbackers got to do with Gibson?

ICBM

Philly_Q said:

Comments aside, WTF has a video of Cliff Burton playing Arias and Rickenbackers got to do with Gibson?

Showing the build quality and decades-long model consistency to which they're aspiring, respectively...

Bridgehouse

ICBM said:

Philly_Q said:

Comments aside, WTF has a video of Cliff Burton playing Arias and Rickenbackers got to do with Gibson?

Showing the build quality and decades-long litigation history to which they're aspiring, respectively...

FTFY

Musicman20

Agreed, it is a bizarre video to use...I don't think I've ever seen old footage of Cliff with any type of Gibson for a start...

Philtre

Another YT response:

Philtre

And another one:

SlopeSoarer

Gibson have been/are in the mire. I read a lot that people question Gibson's pricing and suggest regularly that there are quality issues.

Seems to me that the copy/fake/similar styles must have an effect on Gibson's overall trade, why buy an Epiphone when a lot of people don't like the headstock when you can buy another similarly or better guitar for similar or less money.

Surely Gibson have to listen to what people are saying with regard to quality and pricing. But there might be a problem... if they significantly reduce prices and quality improves what happens to the value of used guitars and the people that have supported them for many years. Surely they will be disgruntled!

Seems to me they are in a Catch position. I wouldn't surprised on the back of all the negative publicity the video has stirred up that Google searches on fakes/copies has gone up!

If I were in charge of Gibson I start using the open book headstock on their Epiphone's and just generally make sure they were giving good value for money.

Three-ColourSunburst

WiresDreamDisasters said:

 they need to focus on bringing something to the table. Something that makes people perk up and take notice.

They have - hide glue and 'molecular plastic'.

antonyiv

Well,..people bash Gibson's video even on the Gibson forum: https://forum.gibson.com/topic/147737-gibson-sends-out-a-warning-to-copycats/.

I really don't know how they shot themselves in the leg that fast.

Fortheloveofguitar

Major fuck up for Gibson.

 Mark taking some serious heat over on Instagram etc. He’s only following orders and is just a poster boy firing Gibson’s bullets 

Bet he never thought it would be like this when he took the ‘Dream job’

Fifty9

How would the guitar builders on tFB feel if they came up with truly brilliant original design (or three) and subsequently loads of other builders/manufacturers cloned them and made a load of money from them? 

Kittyfrisk

Three-ColourSunburst said:

WiresDreamDisasters said:

 they need to focus on bringing something to the table. Something that makes people perk up and take notice.

They have - hide glue and 'molecular plastic'.

Wow! I'm still using 'atomic' plastics. Must upgrade soon...

Philly_Q

Kittyfrisk said:

Three-ColourSunburst said:

WiresDreamDisasters said:

 they need to focus on bringing something to the table. Something that makes people perk up and take notice.

They have - hide glue and 'molecular plastic'.

Wow! I'm still using 'atomic' plastics. Must upgrade soon...

Simon_M

Fifty9 said:

How would the guitar builders on tFB feel if they came up with truly brilliant original design (or three) and subsequently loads of other builders/manufacturers cloned them and made a load of money from them? 

Would be quite a compliment I imagine.

peteri

Fifty9 said:

How would the guitar builders on tFB feel if they came up with truly brilliant original design (or three) and subsequently loads of other builders/manufacturers cloned them and made a load of money from them? 

Whilst I think that's an interesting point - the fact is, if you take the Les Paul - first built in 1952, Gibson have not pursued with any vigour (to my knowledge) any major manufacturer apart from PRS, and they lost.

So threatening something 67 years after the initial build, is a little late I think?

Whitecat

peteri said:

Fifty9 said:

How would the guitar builders on tFB feel if they came up with truly brilliant original design (or three) and subsequently loads of other builders/manufacturers cloned them and made a load of money from them? 

Whilst I think that's an interesting point - the fact is, if you take the Les Paul - first built in 1952, Gibson have not pursued with any vigour (to my knowledge) any major manufacturer apart from PRS, and they lost.

So threatening something 67 years after the initial build, is a little late I think?

They've actually pursued lots of manufacturers, especially little ones. Tom Anderson is a great example of one who backed down because they didn't have the resources for a fight - they scrapped the original 'Bulldog' model as a result of pressure from Gibson. Around the time this was happening, other small builders revealed that they too had received C+D letters from Gibson's legal people.

In terms of "major" manufacturers, well, their track record continues to not be very good - those with the resources to fight back do tend to win. PRS was the first, JHS was a more recent victory. http://www.musicincmag.com/News/2016/111416/111416_Gibson.html