CONGRATULATIONS! BCD is now gone.

Emp_Fab

I know I'm not exactly Mr Popular with the mods (and probably half the forum) now, but...  I don't see what the problem is with having a BCD section that is unmoderated.

It's not visible to anyone but registered members, who have the option to hide the section anyway if they so wish.

Why can't there be an unmoderated, members-only section?

No moderation at all - and the only flags that the mods would pay any attention to would be for posts that could be legally dubious.

I really don't see what the problem is.  We have our own Mos Eisley and what happens there, stays in there.

You can't flag posts unless they put the forum at risk and you accept that as a condition of entry.

Why can't we have that?

Roland

Emp_Fab said:

...  I don't see what the problem is with having a BCD section that is unmoderated ....

Well for a start it breeds behaviours which then spill over into other areas of the forum. You might remember the time that Capo4th tried to sell a guitar and people he’d been sparring with in BCD piled over into Guitar£ and pissed on his thread.

Bridgehouse

Emp_Fab said:

I know I'm not exactly Mr Popular with the mods (and probably half the forum) now, but...  I don't see what the problem is with having a BCD section that is unmoderated.

It's not visible to anyone but registered members, who have the option to hide the section anyway if they so wish.

Why can't there be an unmoderated, members-only section?

No moderation at all - and the only flags that the mods would pay any attention to would be for posts that could be legally dubious.

I really don't see what the problem is.  We have our own Mos Eisley and what happens there, stays in there.

You can't flag posts unless they put the forum at risk and you accept that as a condition of entry.

Why can't we have that?

No.

You’ve already placed a line on it. “Posts that could be legally dubious”

Someone has to decide what that is - and none of the mods are lawyers. It’ll be the same old story - “that’s legally dubious”, “no it isn’t - it’s freedom of speech”

What’s the line cover? Harassment? Bullying? Asking where to get drugs? Libel or copyright infringement?

Ultimately people will just end up trying to push the line and test the mods. So...

Nope.

Longtallronnie

Bridgehouse said:

Longtallronnie said:

So, do people genuinely get upset by stuff on the internet that they’re in no way obliged to read? 

Weird. 

They do - and obsessively complain to the mods and demand action. 

Of course, most of the time we are

Smelling my cheese? 

Bridgehouse

Oh, and just to reiterate - this is a guitar forum..

The precious resources we have should prioritise those sections, not get wasted on policing drunken arguments about stuff which is nothing to do with guitars. 

richardhomer

Bridgehouse said:

Oh, and just to reiterate - this is a guitar forum..

The precious resources we have should prioritise those sections, not get wasted on policing drunken arguments about stuff which is nothing to do with guitars. 

Aren’t you a bass player?

Bridgehouse

richardhomer said:

Bridgehouse said:

Oh, and just to reiterate - this is a guitar forum..

The precious resources we have should prioritise those sections, not get wasted on policing drunken arguments about stuff which is nothing to do with guitars. 

Aren’t you a bass player?

“Bass Guitar”

Or perhaps we should discriminate against people who only play Strats or Les Pauls, or those who insist on using Orange Amps? 

Bridgehouse

Longtallronnie said:

Bridgehouse said:

Longtallronnie said:

So, do people genuinely get upset by stuff on the internet that they’re in no way obliged to read? 

Weird. 

They do - and obsessively complain to the mods and demand action. 

Of course, most of the time we are

Smelling my cheese? 

That’s the “whatever” moment...

WiresDreamDisasters

Bridgehouse said:

richardhomer said:

Bridgehouse said:

Oh, and just to reiterate - this is a guitar forum..

The precious resources we have should prioritise those sections, not get wasted on policing drunken arguments about stuff which is nothing to do with guitars. 

Aren’t you a bass player?

“Bass Guitar”

Or perhaps we should discriminate against people who only play Strats or Les Pauls, or those who insist on using Orange Amps? 

Ban all of the tele and bigsby owners, and I reckon you'd see a forum full of Fonzi.

Bridgehouse

WiresDreamDisasters said:

Bridgehouse said:

richardhomer said:

Bridgehouse said:

Oh, and just to reiterate - this is a guitar forum..

The precious resources we have should prioritise those sections, not get wasted on policing drunken arguments about stuff which is nothing to do with guitars. 

Aren’t you a bass player?

“Bass Guitar”

Or perhaps we should discriminate against people who only play Strats or Les Pauls, or those who insist on using Orange Amps? 

Ban all of the tele and bigsby owners, and I reckon you'd see a forum full of Fonzi.

If I had my way I’d ban anyone that insisted on playing a Ric Bass..

Sadly the membership would get quickly pissed off when their amp questions didn’t get answered

WiresDreamDisasters

Not a fan of Rics myself. Just don't like the look of them.

YAY! I'M SAFE!

Bridgehouse

WiresDreamDisasters said:

Not a fan of Rics myself. Just don't like the look of them.

YAY! I'M SAFE!

Oh come on, you’re never safe...

tony99

Roland said:

Emp_Fab said:

...  I don't see what the problem is with having a BCD section that is unmoderated ....

Well for a start it breeds behaviours which then spill over into other areas of the forum. You might remember the time that Capo4th tried to sell a guitar and people he’d been sparring with in BCD piled over into Guitar£ and pissed on his thread.

yeah but he wanted something like eight grand and wouldn't even post any piccies of it, he deserved a good flaming

Bridgehouse

tony99 said:

Roland said:

Emp_Fab said:

...  I don't see what the problem is with having a BCD section that is unmoderated ....

Well for a start it breeds behaviours which then spill over into other areas of the forum. You might remember the time that Capo4th tried to sell a guitar and people he’d been sparring with in BCD piled over into Guitar£ and pissed on his thread.

yeah but he wanted something like eight grand and wouldn't even post any piccies of it, he deserved a good flaming

Deserved or not, it’s against the rules. End of.

tony99

Bridgehouse said:

tony99 said:

Roland said:

Emp_Fab said:

...  I don't see what the problem is with having a BCD section that is unmoderated ....

Well for a start it breeds behaviours which then spill over into other areas of the forum. You might remember the time that Capo4th tried to sell a guitar and people he’d been sparring with in BCD piled over into Guitar£ and pissed on his thread.

yeah but he wanted something like eight grand and wouldn't even post any piccies of it, he deserved a good flaming

Deserved or not, it’s against the rules. End of.

I wonder if he ever sold it

Bridgehouse

tony99 said:

Bridgehouse said:

tony99 said:

Roland said:

Emp_Fab said:

...  I don't see what the problem is with having a BCD section that is unmoderated ....

Well for a start it breeds behaviours which then spill over into other areas of the forum. You might remember the time that Capo4th tried to sell a guitar and people he’d been sparring with in BCD piled over into Guitar£ and pissed on his thread.

yeah but he wanted something like eight grand and wouldn't even post any piccies of it, he deserved a good flaming

Deserved or not, it’s against the rules. End of.

I wonder if he ever sold it

There’s a lot of stuff in the classifieds that doesn’t get sold. 

Handsome_Chris

Bridgehouse said:

Emp_Fab said:

I know I'm not exactly Mr Popular with the mods (and probably half the forum) now, but...  I don't see what the problem is with having a BCD section that is unmoderated.

It's not visible to anyone but registered members, who have the option to hide the section anyway if they so wish.

Why can't there be an unmoderated, members-only section?

No moderation at all - and the only flags that the mods would pay any attention to would be for posts that could be legally dubious.

I really don't see what the problem is.  We have our own Mos Eisley and what happens there, stays in there.

You can't flag posts unless they put the forum at risk and you accept that as a condition of entry.

Why can't we have that?

No.

You’ve already placed a line on it. “Posts that could be legally dubious”

Someone has to decide what that is - and none of the mods are lawyers. It’ll be the same old story - “that’s legally dubious”, “no it isn’t - it’s freedom of speech”

What’s the line cover? Harassment? Bullying? Asking where to get drugs? Libel or copyright infringement?

Ultimately people will just end up trying to push the line and test the mods. So...

Nope.

Surely people who push the line to test the madmins are breaking rule number one and should face a banishment, temporary or otherwise?

Emp_Fab

Clearly the argument about behaviour from bcd spilling into the main forum is invalid as it would have caused a major issue before now.  I fear that, as has already been mentioned, shutting down bcd is just going to move the conversations into off-topic, presenting the mods with an even bigger headache.  

Handsome_Chris

Emp_Fab said:

Clearly the argument about behaviour from bcd spilling into the main forum is invalid as it would have caused a major issue before now.  I fear that, as has already been mentioned, shutting down bcd is just going to move the conversations into off-topic, presenting the mods with an even bigger headache.  

@Roland , do you ever feel that people can not understand what you have written?

chillidoggy

Jimbro66 said:

chillidoggy said:

Fully understand and support the mods decision on BCD.

The only thing I will say is some of the best rants ever were in the ‘Shit That Boils Your Piss’ section, and I’m saddened to think that not only my own efforts, but also those of some of what I consider to be the finest whingers and moaners on the planet will no longer be available for all to enjoy.

I’m not sure that was ever achieved. I saw the posts in that thread, including my own occasional whinges, as Old Man Shouts At Clouds. I can’t imagine anyone else found them enjoyable. No, we’ll just have to go back to whingeing to the missus -  who also takes no notice at all. 

It’s clear I’m not alone due to the popularity of STBYP thread, due to the number of posts in it. I’m not on a one-man mission to reinstate it, but it did provide a relief valve, even if it was shouting at clouds, and a good few laughs with some high quality, and damned intelligent rants from time to time.

Arguably, one of the finest threads courtesy of @Emp_Fab and if STBYP were a physical object, it would be a statue somewhere in South Wales.