Mary Poppins film age rating raised

Philly_Q

Timcito said:

Philly_Q said:

Timcito said:

Where, though, do they draw the line? Should they, for example, warn the public or raise the viewing age on films from the past that stereotype women as housewives or that promote heteronormativity by excluding gay relationships? The list of potentially offensive material is endless. 

How exactly does it inconvenience you if they warn the public or raise the viewing age for any reason?  The warnings are for the benefit of people who may be surprised or offended.  You're free to ignore them.

I think kowtowing to the petty-minded arrogance that compels some people to censor history because it fails to comply with their own transitory and limited worldview is a negative trend that goes beyond the immediate case in point. 

Oh give over.  There's no censorship here.  

fretmeister

Timcito said:

Philly_Q said:

Timcito said:

Where, though, do they draw the line? Should they, for example, warn the public or raise the viewing age on films from the past that stereotype women as housewives or that promote heteronormativity by excluding gay relationships? The list of potentially offensive material is endless. 

How exactly does it inconvenience you if they warn the public or raise the viewing age for any reason?  The warnings are for the benefit of people who may be surprised or offended.  You're free to ignore them.

I think kowtowing to the petty-minded arrogance that compels some people to censor history because it fails to comply with their own transitory and limited worldview is a negative trend that goes beyond the immediate case in point. 

Nothing has been censored, edited, cut, made less available.

Why do you keep saying it has been?

KevS

It is defiling the Memory of Julie Andrews,my inner child can't take it..
She beat Hitler Single handedly as Maria Von Trapp,now she has a Parental Warning..
If only all Women were as Patriotic and British as her..
This is an outrage and Anti British I tell you..
It's a slippery soap,who will be next..
Michael Caine not being allowed to tell Zulus not to throw spears at him..
Ivor the Engine becoming Iris the Engine..

VimFuego

Timcito said:

Philly_Q said:

Timcito said:

Where, though, do they draw the line? Should they, for example, warn the public or raise the viewing age on films from the past that stereotype women as housewives or that promote heteronormativity by excluding gay relationships? The list of potentially offensive material is endless. 

How exactly does it inconvenience you if they warn the public or raise the viewing age for any reason?  The warnings are for the benefit of people who may be surprised or offended.  You're free to ignore them.

I think kowtowing to the petty-minded arrogance that compels some people to censor history because it fails to comply with their own transitory and limited worldview is a negative trend that goes beyond the immediate case in point. 

can I ask, are you have a completely different conversation to the rest of us? I ask, cos your post has absolutely no relevance to what's being discussed here. It's almost like you're trying to create a whole different, and not useful, argument. You may want to look up the term "strawman argument".

Pjon

KevS said:

Michael Caine not being allowed to tell Zulus not to throw spears at him..

I had an argument on another forum about whether or not Zulu was racist. The person who said it was hadn't actually seen it. I've always seen it as an anti-Empire film, but yes, the baddies are all black and the goodies all white. Difficult to make a vaguely realistic film of it without that delineation - it would look very odd! However, I'm guessing that it just wouldn't get made today, as anti-war as it was. 

CHRISB50

Kurtis said:

Am I the only one that thought it was crap? 

Nope. It’s shit. 

Sporky

Has anyone said "wokerati" or "wokeflakes" yet?

I do love a good portmanteau. 

VimFuego

Sporky said:

Has anyone said "wokerati" or "wokeflakes" yet?

I do love a good portmanteau. 

ditto, though it can be difficult getting all your clothes in one without them creasing. 

merlin

Kurtis said:

Am I the only one that thought it was crap? 

Sentimental old shit. No, you're not.
However some of the songs are great and the performances (dodgy accents aside) are also damn fine.

Such a shame it's such patronising, sentimental crap. 

TimmyO

Sporky said:

Has anyone said "wokerati" or "wokeflakes" yet?

I do love a good portmanteau. 

“Wokeness” has featured already 

Sporky

TimmyO said:

Sporky said:

Has anyone said "wokerati" or "wokeflakes" yet?

I do love a good portmanteau. 

“Wokeness” has featured already 

I was hoping for some upgaming from that point.

There's certainly some weapons-grade cloudshaking. 

TimmyO

Sporky said:

TimmyO said:

Sporky said:

Has anyone said "wokerati" or "wokeflakes" yet?

I do love a good portmanteau. 

“Wokeness” has featured already 

I was hoping for some upgaming from that point.

There's certainly some weapons-grade cloudshaking. 

It’s all crunt. And as we know, we should avoid crunt. 

Sporky

Especially crunt from above. 

fretmeister

What is 'crunt'?

I don't want to search it due to my unbeatable ability to always make a typo that ends up with a bad word.

VimFuego

guardians of the galazy innit? I am crunt.

Sporky

fretmeister said:

What is 'crunt'?

I don't want to search it due to my unbeatable ability to always make a typo that ends up with a bad word.

It's a catch-all for filth. Literal and metaphorical.

It often descends from above, hence "crunt from above!". 

I do not believe it has to do with The Overbear. 

VimFuego

so, the age old question of "do overbears crunt in the air" has been answered then.

darthed1981

Sporky said:

Has anyone said "wokerati" or "wokeflakes" yet?

I do love a good portmanteau. 

You mean like Dead of Night, Doctor Terrors House of Horrror or the excellent Ghost Stories from a few years ago...?

Everyone still arguing over whether Mary Poppins should be U or PG apart from that?

darthed1981

WezV said:

Watership down is another that was a U, but got reclassified as PG.

Is anyone going to challenge the logic behind that? 

Watership Down is fucked up.

When I've hit bunnies in my car I always assume its one of the ones whos a bastard.

darthed1981

Philly_Q said:

DB1 said:

Philly_Q said:

I was aware of the word Hottentot, I had probably read it in an old book somewhere.  I thought it was a term for a particular ethnic group and didn't realise it was considered offensive... but I know now.  So fair enough, Mary Poppins gets a PG.  That's preferable to censorship.

Just a thought @Philly_Q - you were a fan of the Greyfriars/Bunter books, weren’t you (as am I, of course)? Might you have read it there? In one of the stories that I can remember, someone is covered in soot and runs down the stairs, with Mr Prout (I think) asking if it was a mad (or escaped) Hottentot. That’s where I first heard the word, and I can’t really recall hearing it since. Much of that series of Cassell/Charles Skilton books was a copy and paste from earlier Magnet editions, so I suppose that it could have been originally published at any time between 1908 and 1940.

@DB1 it's entirely possible!  I'm pretty sure I've read it elsewhere as well, though.

King Solomans Mines?

That novel has a character basically characterised as one who if I recall saves them in the desert then drops dead in the icy mountains... "hottentots... can't take the cold" or similar...