Game of Thrones

Clarky

Drew_fx said:

Jon aint dead. The red lady will bring him back.

she's use her magic jublees...

Jalapeno

holnrew said:

You can already see her naked if you wish. 

I've read some theories of Jon warging to Ghost, but that seems far fetched. I'm going to read the books I think.

Jon Snow gets snuffed out at the end of the last published book - but far looser description than the Ceaser/Brutus cut'n'paste scene last night. I always thought the Red Witch Melissandre would be up to something ......

Agree that the Lena Heady CGI was pretty ropey in places.

Clarky

I didn't notice the face CGI... I was totally not looking at the face...

Drew_TNBD

Yeah, I was looking at the sheer horror of her ginge minge.

lloyd

No way is Jon snow dead, he'll be back, which is a weak move IMO, I'll lose a bit of respect (if that's the right word) if he comes back. I reckon it's all set up for him to win at the end either with Danerys as his wife or letting her have the bits over the sea. I have nothing to back this up, but that's my gut feeling.

Deijavoo

lloyd said:

No way is Jon snow dead, he'll be back, which is a weak move IMO, I'll lose a bit of respect (if that's the right word) if he comes back. I reckon it's all set up for him to win at the end either with Danerys as his wife or letting her have the bits over the sea. I have nothing to back this up, but that's my gut feeling.

Snap. Also, how comes Dothraki tribes are now in green countryside as opposed to desert? Thought they were scared of the narrow sea etc....?

hugbot

Jon Snow being dead would be weird because they haven't dealt with his mystery parentage yet. Stannis being dead makes more sense since his arc is basically done.

lloyd

I can see stannis being let off by brianne but wouldn't be surprised either way....he's never going to win now so she probably chopped his head off.

WezV

Deijavoo said:

lloyd said:

No way is Jon snow dead, he'll be back, which is a weak move IMO, I'll lose a bit of respect (if that's the right word) if he comes back. I reckon it's all set up for him to win at the end either with Danerys as his wife or letting her have the bits over the sea. I have nothing to back this up, but that's my gut feeling.

Snap. Also, how comes Dothraki tribes are now in green countryside as opposed to desert? Thought they were scared of the narrow sea etc....?

they roam plains and grasslands and have quite a large realm.  We only see one tribe and their home city (home city to all of them, but only the crones live their permanently) in the previous series.   Danery's took them across the desert which they all hated her for.  none of them have crossed the narrow sea

holnrew said:

I've read some theories of Jon warging to Ghost, but that seems far fetched. I'm going to read the books I think.

possibly not that far out, its a theme in the later books.  I can;t remember, was ghost shown in the episode???  I was expecting a little glimmer of something to suggest he was warging

In the books he is bleeding out at the end, but its noticeably less clear cut than other deaths in the book.... actually, just re-read it and I am less sure

"Jon fell to his knees.  He found the dagger's hilt and wrenched it free.  In the cold night air the wound was smoking. "Ghost," he whispered. Pain washed over him. Stick them with the pointy end. When the third dagger took him between the shoulder blades, he gave a grunt and fell face-first into the snow.  He never felt the fourth knife.  Only the cold..."

meltedbuzzbox

Deijavoo said:

I thought from the start that Jon Snow was going to be Ned's sister and Robert Baratheon's kid. 

That's a point, where is Robert's other son that Melisandre was going to burn then he escaped? I'm also praying for more of Adebisi from Oz in the next season.

I thought I was all alone spotting Adebsi. Fucking legend in Oz

meltedbuzzbox

I also agree with the possibility of the red woman bringing Jon back to life. 

I am also not sold on Stannis being dead. Its not like GOT to waste an opportunity to show a murder of a key character

Headphones

Given these theories about Lord Snow's origin and destiny, which would be a tad hard to fulfil if he's committed to The Watch (not of the Apple variety); now, since he's dead, his watch is over...

lloyd

meltedbuzzbox;672640" said:

I also agree with the possibility of the red woman bringing Jon back to life. 

I am also not sold on Stannis being dead. Its not like GOT to waste an opportunity to show a murder of a key character

The lannister big man wasn't shown as dead until the first episode this season though so not sure that's an indicator?

Deijavoo

meltedbuzzbox said:

Deijavoo said:

 I'm also praying for more of Adebisi from Oz in the next season.

I thought I was all alone spotting Adebsi. Fucking legend in Oz

meltedbuzzbox

lloyd said:

meltedbuzzbox;672640" said:

I also agree with the possibility of the red woman bringing Jon back to life. 

I am also not sold on Stannis being dead. Its not like GOT to waste an opportunity to show a murder of a key character

The lannister big man wasn't shown as dead until the first episode this season though so not sure that's an indicator?

You mean Charles Dance? He got peppered pretty good with cross bow bolts 

bloodandtears

meltedbuzzbox said:

Deijavoo said:

I thought from the start that Jon Snow was going to be Ned's sister and Robert Baratheon's kid. 

That's a point, where is Robert's other son that Melisandre was going to burn then he escaped? I'm also praying for more of Adebisi from Oz in the next season.

I thought I was all alone spotting Adebsi. Fucking legend in Oz

Mr Echo from Lost ;-)

stickyfiddle

Headphones said:

Given these theories about Lord Snow's origin and destiny, which would be a tad hard to fulfil if he's committed to The Watch (not of the Apple variety); now, since he's dead, his watch is over...

Good batting, thinkman...

ftumch

meltedbuzzbox said:

lloyd said:

meltedbuzzbox;672640" said:

I also agree with the possibility of the red woman bringing Jon back to life. 

I am also not sold on Stannis being dead. Its not like GOT to waste an opportunity to show a murder of a key character

The lannister big man wasn't shown as dead until the first episode this season though so not sure that's an indicator?

You mean Charles Dance? He got peppered pretty good with cross bow bolts 

No I think they mean 'the mountain' Sandor clegane

Bogwhoppit

Its all a bit Downton Abbey in the snow...

lloyd

ftumch said:

meltedbuzzbox said:

lloyd said:

meltedbuzzbox;672640" said:

I also agree with the possibility of the red woman bringing Jon back to life. 

I am also not sold on Stannis being dead. Its not like GOT to waste an opportunity to show a murder of a key character

The lannister big man wasn't shown as dead until the first episode this season though so not sure that's an indicator?

You mean Charles Dance? He got peppered pretty good with cross bow bolts 

No I think they mean 'the mountain' Sandor clegane

I meant Charles Dance yeah, ok he had a few bolts in him but we didn't actually see him die till the next series. It's hard to second guess what's next but I doubt J-Snow's going to stay dead.....