Class war

Brize

lloyd said:

I wore a blue suit and brown shoes to a wedding this summer, I looked cool as fuck like a right spiv.

Fixed that for you.

Brize

stickyfiddle said:

@Snap, you had me until "suit and shirt without tie" which has been my staple for years. MUCH better than a loose tie or one with a knot too big (phone-selling arsehole) or too small (child who hasn't learned how ties should look). 

Yep, big windsor knots are for football players, but small four-in-hand knots are where it's at. Check any picture of Prince Charles by way of example.

Suit without a tie isn't a great look - it looks like you couldn't be arsed to finish getting dressed or you've just rolled out of a nightclub. Nothing wrong going sans tie, but ditch the suit as well and wear slacks and a jacket.

stickyfiddle

Hmm too small... A tie knot should just fill the gap between the collar

Obama gets it - best dressed POTUS since JFK.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/whitehouse.gov/files/images/twitter_cards_potus.jpg

As for tie/no tie I do agree it's much better to go further and wear a blazer rather than suit. 

holnrew

I don't buy leather shoes, will I never get a job?

bingefeller

I'm gonna take a picture of my work outfit for you guys.   

Brize

stickyfiddle said:

Hmm too small... A tie knot should just fill the gap between the collar

Obama gets it - best dressed POTUS since JFK.

Sorry bud, but no sartorial points for Obama. He's cool as fuck for a POTUS but that's in spite of his dress sense, not because of it. 

Keep in mind that the size of a tie knot will depend on the material and lining of the tie. Symmetrical knots are to be avoided.

bingefeller

bingefeller

bingefeller

I work in a hospital so I'm no allowed to wear a tie and have to roll my sleeves up.  It's nice and casual. 

scrumhalf

Business casual is appalling. It's bad enough having to have suits and casual clothes, now you need an extra load of smarter casual clothes.

fretmeister said:

I cannot be arsed to think about clothes in the morning. Sticking with the suit and tie is easy.

Absolutely. Plus, I know that if I'm wearing a tie I need to say "fuck" a lot less than I would usually do.

monquixote

dchwhite said:

Brize said:

dchwhite said:

Silly question no doubt, but how do you use reflexive pronouns inappropriately?

"Hello sir, I'm just calling yourself today to ask whether you might be interested in the products offered by ourselves? If interested, please get back to myself."

The sort of illiterate twaddle that seems to be endemic in call centres.

cc @Gassage

Appreciate yourself taking the time to advise myself

The crazy thing is that people who talk like that are doing so to sound more sophisticated. 

Brize

monquixote said:

The crazy thing is that people who talk like that are doing so to sound more sophisticated. 

It's true - they somehow think it sounds more business-like and professional when nothing could be further from the truth.

Sporky

fretmeister said:

No one ever got binned for looking too smart.

Not binned, but I did get taken to one side and told to stop wearing a suit (with tie) at one job; I was in a support role, and it made the general staff nervous when a suit came in to their meeting - they assumed I was a director 'cos only directors wore suits there...

Snap

Tie knots - also depends on the collar of shirt and lapels of jacket.

Witness Sean COnnery in Dr No, sporting the knitted tie, splayed collar and 4 in hand to perfection.

Cufflinks then - I'm having a debate with myself about them. THere's a lot to be said for a buttoned cuff and to argue that links are only for dinner dress. But I lhave a lot of cufflinks. In any event, they should be restrained and not of the noveltly variety. There is nothing cool about novelty anything.

Brize

I struggle with cufflinks too but generally tend to wear an understated silver paid.

Belts? Not to be worn with suits unless you're Italian.

fretmeister

Sporky said:

fretmeister said:

No one ever got binned for looking too smart.

Not binned, but I did get taken to one side and told to stop wearing a suit (with tie) at one job; I was in a support role, and it made the general staff nervous when a suit came in to their meeting - they assumed I was a director 'cos only directors wore suits there...

ha! That's ace.

I might have mentioned this before.

One of my friends pitched up to work (company next door to ours in the same building) wearing a pretty bright purple suit, with a very bright orange shirt and tie.

What are you wearing that for?
Going to a funeral.
Really, in that?
It's ok - I didn't like him.

The deadpan delivery still has me in stitches.

stickyfiddle

I like a good cufflink, although I generally have them on my desk and sleeves rolled up by 10am. I have 4 sets - one gold set were my grandfather's, and only come out for weddings, funerals and interviews; 2 carry my college crest (subtly!) and one set is made from old watch movements.  I've seen very few other cufflinks I'd actually want to wear.


As for @Sporky, I bet half his colleagues were in... short sleeved shirts... 

*shudder*

Reverend

Brize said:

dchwhite said:

Appreciate yourself taking the time to advise myself

Yourself is very welcome!

Hope this will help your grammar going forward...

Sporky

Brize said:

Belts? Not to be worn with suits unless you're Italian.

If the trousers have belt loops you should be wearing a belt.

stickyfiddle said:

As for @Sporky, I bet half his colleagues were in... short sleeved shirts... 

*shudder*

Eurgh.

scrumhalf

Sporky said:

Brize said:

Belts? Not to be worn with suits unless you're Italian.

If the trousers have belt loops you should be wearing a belt.

Everyone over 40 should wear a belt with trousers. When nature begins to make things sag you need help.