Big Sam for the chop?

Fretwired

Sam Allardyce 'in £400,000 deal' sting: England manager is filmed 'offering advice on how to bypass FA transfer rules - and mocking his predecessor Roy Hodgson by calling him 'Woy''

What a twat. Looks like he could get fired this morning.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/09/26/exclusive-investigation-england-manager-sam-allardyce-for-sale/

fields5069

Bring back Glenn "Joey" Hoddle.

Fretwired

In fairness Sam makes some good comments about the FA. Had he been caught snorting coke with hookers he would have been OK. But criticising the FA is a step too far.

mikeyrob73

Look on the bright side, he will have 100% record.

oh and he has previous on this kind of thing 

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/premier-league/allardyce-took-bungs-claims-bbc-investigation-416671.html

lloyd

mikeyrob73 said:

Look on the bright side, he will have 100% record.

oh and he has previous on this kind of thing 

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/premier-league/allardyce-took-bungs-claims-bbc-investigation-416671.html

Aye, his son's got a bit of dirt on him too hasn't he?

A lot of corruption about, but you can't break the golden rule-Don't get caught.

xSkarloey

This is a ' dog bites man' story. 

Football manager wants to earn yet more money? Shock! 

Working through and around rules to secure a transfer? Horror! 

Gary Neville should be told to sit down and shut up? Ya don't say! 

England players have a psychological block? No shit, Sherlock. 



Even the FA aren't stupid enough to sack him is my hunch. Yes Sam's got to eat some humble pie but as his boss I'd rather weather a media shit storm than have to look for a second boss in three months. 

fob

Skarloey said:

Even the FA aren't stupid enough to sack him is my hunch. Yes Sam's got to eat some humble pie but as his boss I'd rather weather a media shit storm than have to look for a second boss in three months. 

This is a position that has trickled down from the political classes - if you're caught then just deny, apologise, find religion etc. but hold on to your position of influence and power whatever. It's a shame that so many people just accept that. Football is one of the most corrupt industries in the world and we should not tolerate it regardless of the FA's position (hardly squeaky clean themselves). If we can't find a manager in the intervening period (who I think should be English - a whole other topic) then, as a nation, we're not up to the job.

xSkarloey

fob said:

Skarloey said:

Even the FA aren't stupid enough to sack him is my hunch. Yes Sam's got to eat some humble pie but as his boss I'd rather weather a media shit storm than have to look for a second boss in three months. 

This is a position that has trickled down from the political classes - if you're caught then just deny, apologise, find religion etc. but hold on to your position of influence and power whatever. It's a shame that so many people just accept that. Football is one of the most corrupt industries in the world and we should not tolerate it regardless of the FA's position (hardly squeaky clean themselves). If we can't find a manager in the intervening period (who I think should be English - a whole other topic) then, as a nation, we're not up to the job.

That's the whole point, my man. There is no other english manager who is halfway decent who'd go near that job with a bargepole. Why should the FA give themselves more work to do? I don't say that this is right. I am merely trying to see it from one of their points of view.


Football's football. Just a bunch of starry eyed kids and cynical blokes, all united by money, hero-worship, the adrenaline rush that comes with winning and the despair of losing. All these things cloud judgement. Normal moral codes (and I agree with your sentiment on high standards by the way) don't apply.

Snap

Don't think he will get the boot. I don;'t think, having watched the footage, he compromised himself seriously. HE just looks like an arrogant berk - shock horror.

TTony

Skarloey said:

Even the FA aren't stupid enough to sack him is my hunch. Yes Sam's got to eat some humble pie but as his boss I'd rather weather a media shit storm than have to look for a second boss in three months. 

Let's be honest - finding any replacement isn't going to be easy (Allardyce wouldn't have got the job originally if there'd been a big field of strong candidates!) and finding an English replacement with the appetite and ability for the job is going to be the other side of bloody hard.

The national team is completely subservient to the Premier League and - IMHO of course - the structure of the latter completely undermines any hope of success for the former.

Who'd want to manage the national team in that sort of situation?  

Nitefly

I'm bored shitless with this sort of lazy entrapment "journalism" - there is no story, so let's manufacture one.

Sam's OK, been a bit naive perhaps, but he repeatedly said that he would have to check with the FA.  It's not like he walked off with a suitcase full of used twenties.

Jalapeno

Naive maybe, but he DID say yes to £400k/yr - but that he'd have to discuss it with the FA.

Non-story

lloyd

Reports he's on his way for the chop now, could be FB bollocks mind.

Fretwired

Fans have been venting their fury on FB .. I think the FA have got to sack him or have egg on their faces.

xSkarloey

I think things could go the other way if the FA get him to issue a grovelling apology, and let it be known that they've tied him into a revised contract whereby he can't even have a pee without their say so, and they have final say over who he meets...



If I were a newspaper editor I'd be secretly praying they keep him on, while calling for his head on a platter. Nothing like a helping of moral outrage to flog papers. 

holnrew

I don't want an english manager, they're shit

ronnyb

No sympathy at all with him, it's just sheer effin greed. He's being paid £3 million a year by the FA and then he's negotiating another deal for £400,000. How much money do these people want, surely for that salary he should be putting all his time and effort into the job he's being paid for. You  wouldn't mind if he was any good, what's he ever achieved other than low level stuff. If he was any good why didn't any of the big clubs take him on. Rant over my blood pressure's going up.  

Flink_Poyd

Another nail in the coffin for my interest in football, the media bullshit and the corruption/greed/nonsense outweighs the little enjoyment I get from it nowadays. 

Paul_C

Latest news from 5 Live is saying he will be gone tonight, either sacked or resigned.

EricTheWeary

Offered his resignation according to the Mirror.

Presumably he will have been the shortest serving England manager of all time. 

JookyChap

Well, if he goes they definitely need somebody English, bland and generally uncontroversial or abrasive and I don't want to start any conspiracies, but I notice Nigel Pearson is at a loose end and he more or less won the premiership last year...