FIFA and Poppygate

EricTheWeary

Said on the news that FIFA standards do apply to friendlies. I think between March and now the administrators at FIFA have changed, same rules but a new interpretation.

Clearly the answer is to not schedule international matches involving UK sides on armistice day. This isn't a new issue so why wasn't it taken into account?

Fretwired said:

Neil said:

FIFA double standards.

From the BBC website...

Fifa has been accused of double standards after it emerged Republic of Ireland players wore a political symbol on their shirts in a friendly against Switzerland on 25 March to mark the centenary of the Easter Rising.

Damian Collins MP, chairman of the Commons' Culture, Media and Sport select committee, said he had called on Fifa to "clarify the issue".

The Easter Rising was an Irish rebellion against British rule, which lasted from 24 to 29 April 1916 and resulted in 485 deaths.

"That appears to be an absolutely classic example of leniency being shown to other countries," Collins said.

Nothing to do with Fifa as it was a friendly and not a competitive match. Those are the rules apparently ...

fields5069

Fretwired said:

fields5069 said:

Gassage said:

What is a surprise to me is that the players aren't simply getting sleeves of poppies tattoed..

With some words of wisdom, in a foreign language they can't read.

More likely "Two world wars, one world cup'  - misspelled. English footballers don't seem to be the brightest people you'll ever meet. 

Symbolism, though, isn't it? Some moody Arabic phrase which translates as "Chicken, whole or half, freshly plucked, from 10 dinar per kilo".

Fretwired

EricTheWeary said:

Said on the news that FIFA standards do apply to friendlies. I think between March and now the administrators at FIFA have changed, same rules but a new interpretation.

Clearly the answer is to not schedule international matches involving UK sides on armistice day. This isn't a new issue so why wasn't it taken into account?

Fretwired said:

Neil said:

FIFA double standards.

From the BBC website...

Fifa has been accused of double standards after it emerged Republic of Ireland players wore a political symbol on their shirts in a friendly against Switzerland on 25 March to mark the centenary of the Easter Rising.

Damian Collins MP, chairman of the Commons' Culture, Media and Sport select committee, said he had called on Fifa to "clarify the issue".

The Easter Rising was an Irish rebellion against British rule, which lasted from 24 to 29 April 1916 and resulted in 485 deaths.

"That appears to be an absolutely classic example of leniency being shown to other countries," Collins said.

Nothing to do with Fifa as it was a friendly and not a competitive match. Those are the rules apparently ...

I meant it would have been UEFA though wouldn't it. It was a friendly between two European countries.

**STOP PRESS**

The Irish Football Association are planning to wear the shirts again when they meet Azerbaijan in their World Cup qualifier on November 11.

TimmyO

Buy a Poppy. Don't buy a Poppy. It's all good.

The Royal British Legion do *amaaaaaaazing* work - for all types and ages of ex-servicefolk. Look them up sometime. 

Fretwired

TimmyO said:

Buy a Poppy. Don't buy a Poppy. It's all good.

The Royal British Legion do *amaaaaaaazing* work - for all types and ages of ex-servicefolk. Look them up sometime. 

They do .. but the government needs to do more. Thousands of ex-servicemen are homeless and in need of specialist medical care.

Drew_TNBD

I'd rather talk to an elderly person than give a quid for a poppy, and then continue to be an ignorant cunt the rest of the time.

p90fool

Drew_TNBD said:

I'd rather talk to an elderly person than give a quid for a poppy, and then continue to be an ignorant cunt the rest of the time.

I'm listening

smigeon

^ Significant comma!!

TimmyO

Fretwired said:

TimmyO said:

Buy a Poppy. Don't buy a Poppy. It's all good.

The Royal British Legion do *amaaaaaaazing* work - for all types and ages of ex-servicefolk. Look them up sometime. 

They do .. but the government needs to do more. Thousands of ex-servicemen are homeless and in need of specialist medical care.

Agree :-( 

Drew_TNBD

p90fool said:

Drew_TNBD said:

I'd rather talk to an elderly person than give a quid for a poppy, and then continue to be an ignorant cunt the rest of the time.

I'm listening

You're not old, you're just big boned!

EricTheWeary

The sports journalist on the telly didn't seem to know the UEFA- FIFA divide over that, although you are right ( even if UEFA are still subject to FIFA rules). It'll be back to strictly FIFA interpretation for their qualifier though.

Fretwired said:

EricTheWeary said:

Said on the news that FIFA standards do apply to friendlies. I think between March and now the administrators at FIFA have changed, same rules but a new interpretation.

Clearly the answer is to not schedule international matches involving UK sides on armistice day. This isn't a new issue so why wasn't it taken into account?

Fretwired said:

Neil said:

FIFA double standards.

From the BBC website...

Fifa has been accused of double standards after it emerged Republic of Ireland players wore a political symbol on their shirts in a friendly against Switzerland on 25 March to mark the centenary of the Easter Rising.

Damian Collins MP, chairman of the Commons' Culture, Media and Sport select committee, said he had called on Fifa to "clarify the issue".

The Easter Rising was an Irish rebellion against British rule, which lasted from 24 to 29 April 1916 and resulted in 485 deaths.

"That appears to be an absolutely classic example of leniency being shown to other countries," Collins said.

Nothing to do with Fifa as it was a friendly and not a competitive match. Those are the rules apparently ...

I meant it would have been UEFA though wouldn't it. It was a friendly between two European countries.

**STOP PRESS**

The Irish Football Association are planning to wear the shirts again when they meet Azerbaijan in their World Cup qualifier on November 11.

ICBM

Fretwired said:

They do .. but the government needs to do more. Thousands of ex-servicemen are homeless and in need of specialist medical care.

This too. The government treats ex-servicemen disgracefully - ideally there should be no need for charities to help them.

chrispy108

Exactly. The cost of looking after ex-servicemen should be part of the decision to take action.

If you aren't prepared to look after guys after you've blown their limbs off and fucked with their heads then don't do it to them in the first place.

Drew_TNBD

chrispy108 said:

Exactly. The cost of looking after ex-servicemen should be part of the decision to take action.

If you aren't prepared to look after guys after you've blown their limbs off and fucked with their heads then don't do it to them in the first place.

Um... actually, shitlord, women can jjuin the miltardry now, so er... stop being SEXIY!

seany65

I think the ban is ridiculous, and I'd be surprised if either team didn't wear it.

I wouldn't be surprised that if either team didn't wear it, then a lot of support for them would evaporate, even if only temporarily.

I also agree that there seems to be a growing expaectation that we wear them, especially those in the media, and I think that is alo ridicluous.

chrispy108

Drew_TNBD said:

chrispy108 said:

Exactly. The cost of looking after ex-servicemen should be part of the decision to take action.

If you aren't prepared to look after guys after you've blown their limbs off and fucked with their heads then don't do it to them in the first place.

Um... actually, shitlord, women can jjuin the miltardry now, so er... stop being SEXIY!

Ha! Just to be clear, I use guys as the collective term for a group of people, not just those who identify as male.

Handsome_Chris

chrispy108 said:

Drew_TNBD said:

chrispy108 said:

Exactly. The cost of looking after ex-servicemen should be part of the decision to take action.

If you aren't prepared to look after guys after you've blown their limbs off and fucked with their heads then don't do it to them in the first place.

Um... actually, shitlord, women can jjuin the miltardry now, so er... stop being SEXIY!

Ha! Just to be clear, I use guys as the collective term for a group of people, not just those who ident

Neil

There was non of this political nonsense in the old days.

Oh wait!



England players give the Nazi salute in Berlin 1938.

57Deluxe

Looks like FIFA doing the Eire team too now...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/37872020

Rocker

Correct @57Deluxe except it is the Republic of Ireland and not Eire, see article on RTE Sport website:  http://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/2016/1104/829141-fifa-fai/   A pity it was brought up in the House of Commons debate.  Politics should keep out of sport!  Or failing that, politicians should keep out of sport.

FIFA need to define what is permitted on International team jerseys.  And such definitions ought to be reviewed every few years to keep the rules relevant to the time.