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so not to be taken too seriously
Jazz is more like Rum than beer, It can be much better when mixed down with something - Blue Jazz (Jimmy Smith, Grant Green), Jazz funk (Billy Cobham, New Mastersounds, John Scofield), Dub Jazz (Ernest Rangin), Jazz Rock (Zappa, Doors), folk Jazz (Van Morrison, Joni Mitchell, John Martyn), Pop Jazz (Norah Jones), Latin Jazz. Straight Jazz I prefer older styles where it's more about the melody and nice chord tones rather than too much dissonant. Wes Montgomery, George Benson, Joe Pass etc are the kind of players who played for the tune. Martin Taylor is a great player too.
I like Noel - he's funny as fuck and I think he's a better musician than he seems to get credit for (on here at least). I don't think that video is to be taken too seriously, we all know he likes to take the piss and drop soundbites.
Who's that chap who has that hilarious dumble video. If you listen and watch, it's clear he can really play the guitar - he just chooses not to.
Bizarre. I wonder if this chap is similar.
But I do like some jazz - it's a massive genre. Buckethead has done some interesting stuff, and some of his atonal playing fits in context - more than could be said of that Joe Pass song (not heard any others of his).
Forgot about this! Yes, I have heard some Joe Pass I like. Spectacular vocal performances too.
This was the album I'd heard that inspired me to try to learn jazz. Sadly it didn't work out as I just didn't have the time. Perhaps I'll take it up again.
Back to the subject at hand, i really struggle when people play "outside" guitar parts, people like Mike Landau who tons of guitarists have a massive boner for do nothing for me - i just can;t hear whatever is "good" about it
Actually, it's not *that* much more atonal-sounding than some non-Western music forms, especially from the far east - I've got a couple of albums of traditional Tibetan and Indonesian temple music that aren't far off as discordant and odd.
"Take these three items, some WD-40, a vise grip, and a roll of duct tape. Any man worth his salt can fix almost any problem with this stuff alone." - Walt Kowalski
"Only two things are infinite - the universe, and human stupidity. And I'm not sure about the universe." - Albert Einstein
Bailey etc are the musical equivalent - of course he can play good simple jazz standards but that is exactly the problem with a lot of Jazz musicians ,especially modern ,free and Avant Garde Jazz ........they are all great musicians to begin with but trying so hard to out-weird each other or play some musical one-upmanship game .........
" Oh ,didn't you realise you could play the Klingon minor Cacophonic to outline the 2nd Quartal Harmony substitution !!! "
Indeed if you put 6 of them on a stage all trying to do this to one-another it descends into Bullshit pretty quickly !
I like melody driven " dinner -jazz " but I'm not clever enough for anything I can't whistle or hum the tune of 5 minutes later .
Great playing of course, but great melodies and great arrangements.
That's a bad video, yes, but he has others where he plays "songs" - it's very atonal improv, with talking over. So he uses the music to help carry a spoken word story. It's utterly bizarre but obvious that he can play if he wants.
here in the first 3 mins Spinal Tap talk about Jazz....
This is not too bad, still too much bloody compression though
Still not really very listenable though.
I think the problem is that he's the guitarist equivalent of the Emperor's new clothes - he only uses the noises everyone else would reject as not musical. An intellectual exercise that does not guarantee or facilitate great art.