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The 9/11 terrorists went out on a booze and pussy binge the night before, because they 'knew' all their sins would be wiped clean because of their 'glorious PR act for Islam'.
I've already done my rants on this. Nothing will change. 19 dead people, a bunch of them in all likelyhood small girls, and our public policies on this stuff will not change. People's idiotic moral relativism will not change. The 'not all' crowd will be out in full force soon, and no-one will bother to analyse the causal links between religion and terrorism and the whole thing will just continue.
I'm too shocked to get into a huge debate. I'm fucking angry.
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Silencing people that incite hate like her is part of the whatever.
To clarify, I don't mean "silence" in the Corleone way. They should not be given a direct channel to communicate their views, like the Daily Fail.
No question this is an abhorrent attack on kids. I guess planned to make headlines even more dramatic and drive the hate rhetoric even further into our collective conscious. But why do we let them achieve the goal so willingly? I hate the media reporting on all of these terror attacks. This time the BBC has a nice video of the explosion. An event that has killed 22 people, live for you to watch on youtube. Last time it was the pictures of the car driving along the bridge.
This world is a fucking horror show.
Like I pointed out to her the press are a huge part of this problem, they are helping spread the fear, last night in the UK there would have been hundreds of gigs not effected by terrorists. They need to report the facts and stop treating these horrible events like its a soap opera, it's not entertainment it's a tragedy.
Its all very sad and not something that will end anytime soon. Condolences to those who have lost loved ones.
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But nothing can be done, the lessons learned from 9/11, 7/7, Valentine's Day Massacre, Westminster Attack etc etc
WE CANT STOP THESE THINGS HAPPENING.
Any car/lorry/van is a weapon.
Any public gathering is a target
its not about scoring political points or military advantage.
Its just fear.
because its your neighbour, the guy in a quiet flat somewhere, the guy on the Internet getting indoctrinated, it's not the guys standing on the street corner screaming fire and brimstone.
It human nature that as you become more depressed and disenfranchised with the society you belong to, you withdraw, becoming harder and harder to flag by security forces.
Hive mind, look at how we as a forum rounded on a guy recently who made the mistake of going against the flow of the thread?
Now ramp that up with centuries of oppression, bloodshed and outrage, mixed with religious insanity and it's not hard to see how people turn to extremes.
How do we fight it?
We can't.
There is no big baddie, no end of level boss to chase, no secretive Hydra to crush.
Just a fuckwit with an internet connection and a grudge.
Maybe we fight fear with fear?
for every attack we strike back, 10 mosques blown to fuck everytime a policeman gets stabbed, feels good to imagine it right??
maybe the SAS could execute 100 Islamic clerics everytime it happens.
But for what?
How does it change anything?
Violence perpetuates.
Education and integration are the only only way to combat ignorance and segregation.
I live in Manchester and attend gigs all over the city - seriously - would anyone attending that kind of event in any venue not have concerns about going after this?
I woke my 15 year old son this morning, thankful he was safe and well in his bed. It may well be the case this morning that some of his school mates have been killed or injured.
Why do people have to scapegoat the media? We all need to face up to the truth and reality of what's happened. And what's happened is fucking outrageous....
You mention the media death porn when events happen in this country. With the Westminster attack, many people felt similar on this forum and elsewhere.
We've seen shit from two Iraq wars, Afghanistan, and Syria that go way beyond anything seen thus far with Westminster and Manchester. We've all seen the images from missile and gunship cameras, witnessed small children covered in bomb dust and blood, and all the rest. It seems odd to me that events here at home get so much media coverage dislike yet it's the events overseas that are given wall to wall coverage that are the nucleus of Islamic terrorism and the objections are far fewer.
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Do you think a national news company showing footage of the moment a bomb killed children is needed? It's sensationalism, it's to get clicks on web sites, no respect for victims or their families.
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I dont object to news coverage of the events per se, but why do we need hours of programming, endless repeats of mobile footage and lots of conjecture on the few facts available? Report the facts, move on. The BBC are getting to be the worst offenders here.
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