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That said, they are not the amp for professorben if those clips are anything to go by - you can't get those sounds out of almost any Fender amp. I doubt it with the Tonemaster either, really. That just leaves the Machete as a possibility - rare, heavy and wasn't a commercial success, but at least they're cheap! If you can find one.
"Take these three items, some WD-40, a vise grip, and a roll of duct tape. Any man worth his salt can fix almost any problem with this stuff alone." - Walt Kowalski
"Only two things are infinite - the universe, and human stupidity. And I'm not sure about the universe." - Albert Einstein
I can see this going south.
I started the thread as I am genuinely curious about F style Amps.
I personally have never been able to get a great tone out of one, by that I mean a tone I personally find great.
But they are the most popular amp brand in the world by some margin I think
So there must be something in it, I wondered if it's a case of having some 'trick' to dialling them in, like my Boogie for example.
Btw to all I don't play or listen to Nu-Metal.
Ok so I'm not saying the F style Amps are shit, I don't like the sounds of them, others do, I'm interested in WHY they do, I may not want to play heavy interesting music my whole life, I might one day really really want to play 'Brown Sugar' in the local and prob will find that I can't get that tone from my amp.
Im just seeing what people think of them.
my reason for starting the thread was to poll the forum on a topic, see why they like something that I don't, rather than dismiss it out of hand.
I could have said "ah yeah people like Fender Amps cos they have shit taste in music"
but it that's not true is it?
I don't like em, with a couple of exceptions I don't like any of the examples that have been posted, but I do now have a much better understanding of WHY people like them so much, about how they use them and what musical situations would suit that type of sound.
The modern 'Mesa' (ie Rectifier) sound is completely different again and is based on the Marshall lineage (via Soldano), which even though it was originally derived from the tweed Bassman, is really quite different-sounding after the early models. And even though it's much looser and more scooped than the Mark series sound, the Rectifier sound is still very bold and dark.
With the possible exception of the Machete - which I haven't heard in person - Fender have never made an amp with either of those sorts of voicings, and a lot of gain. (I'm deliberately discounting the EVHIII, because in my opinion it's not really a Fender amp, in the sense you mean.)
"Take these three items, some WD-40, a vise grip, and a roll of duct tape. Any man worth his salt can fix almost any problem with this stuff alone." - Walt Kowalski
"Only two things are infinite - the universe, and human stupidity. And I'm not sure about the universe." - Albert Einstein
*For cleans, some grit and as pedal platforms, these amps are great and I'd take one over most other brands as if you're requiring both decent clean and overdriven sounds, and the amp fits the above remit*, add a pedal for the latter and you're sorted. However, if the amp possesses a naff clean sound to start with, then there's very little you can do to improve it. Maybe add a compressor but for me, anyway, that's why I like Fenders or any amp that has a decent clean sound and takes pedals really well.
As an example, I did a gig a few years back where we were playing 80s rock (Guns N' Roses, Def Leppard, Van Halen) and it was a hired backline. I chose a Twin as my amp and added a Wampler Pinnacle and a Zoom MS-70 CDR as I had both clean and overdriven parts to play. The other guitarist and others on the bill laughed at me. Well, my set up left people surprised as to how good, loud and clear it was and the Twin worked a treat. Even the other guitarists, who happened to be using Rectifiers and Marshalls, were left stroking their chins.
One of the best modern Fenders I've tried in recent years is the George Benson model. Superb cleans (better and richer than a HRD) and slightly bolder than a DRRI but it took overdrives so well. Same weight as a DRRI but with the added bonus of 40 watts on tap.
I had no idea Pierce Brosnan played.
I think the look and name weren't quite right for the target market, plus a 50 watt 1x12 combo just doesn't sound like a metal spec choice. But I agree that clip sounds pretty good. It might be @paulmapp8306 that bought the Fender Machete
Clean: Diezel
Dirty: Diezel
One that I would love to try is the DAR Forza Quattro, which sounds absolutely fucking enormous and looks like a spaceship, but sadly there were only about four or five made before the company went belly-up and made off with a bunch of people's deposits.
I never find Ola's demos particularly informative as every amp tends to end up sounding the same, but this one does have something about it...
"Take these three items, some WD-40, a vise grip, and a roll of duct tape. Any man worth his salt can fix almost any problem with this stuff alone." - Walt Kowalski
"Only two things are infinite - the universe, and human stupidity. And I'm not sure about the universe." - Albert Einstein
In other news - I searched for more DAR amp clips on YouTube and found this. This was the unreleased signature model for Fredrik Thordendal from Meshuggah. Sounds like everything else Ola has ever done, but would you just bloody look at that light show on the front.
Apparently these were all hand-wired as well. That's probably why the company went belly-up - how the hell can you make a profit when that's your approach to building such a complicated amp?