Furore at Fulltone.

Karlos · June 2020

Apologies if this has been posted. I only just saw it and found it quite interesting.

I wasn't sure if this should go in the FX subforum but it's not really about the pedals, more the guy.

I was looking around the internet for another OCD when coincidentally, my mate in the States posted some screen grabs of some rants by Mike Fuller. I'll post them below.
It seems that lots of folk want to throw their pedals at him.

I'm not that au fait with Fulltone as a company and it appears there are 2 different Facebook pages. One run by Mike which I guess is the official page and another run by a guy called Bryant. Mike's attempt to apologise for his outbursts which hasn't gone down to well and Bryant seems to be stoking the fire.

Whether you agree or disagree with what Mr Fuller has said, it's a dick move from a business angle...

There are a lot more screen grabs on the pages than the one below. It would seem that Mike Fuller is known for being a bit of a loud mouth..?

Can anyone explain the tension between to 2 people/pages?

Mike Fuller's page: https://www.facebook.com/FulltoneMusicalProductsInc/

Bryants page: https://www.facebook.com/Fulltonemusicalproducts/

MattBanshee · June 2020

Bryant's page, by his own admission, is a "fan page" (or perhaps, not) and is totally unofficial and unrelated to Mike's official Fulltone page.

Funkfingers · June 2020

With fans like that, who needs enemas? Two rings don’t make a writ.

Perhaps, the Bryant character hopes that Fuller will buy up the rights to the user name Fulltone for a substantial sum of money? Until that occurs, Bryant jigs about and makes a nuisance of himself.

I agree that the social media spat is not in Fuller’s interests. He should simply post a disclaimer to the effect that the user currently known as Fulltone is in no way affiliated with the business of the same name and neither does he reflect the views of the company.

Sassafras · June 2020

Yet another reason I'm so glad I don't use Facebook or Twitter.

Stratavarious · June 2020

I was so enraged that I tore the Fulltone OCD from my pedalboard and crushed it to a pancake with my sledgehammer.

Take that Mr Fuller!

What had he said BTW?

UnclePsychosis · June 2020

Mike Fuller has long had a reputation for being "extremely outspoken" (charitable version). There are hundreds of stories out there of him being rude and abusive to customers (and others).

I have absolutely no context to the screengrabs above so I'm not sure who is abusing who over what but its no surprise that Fuller has got into a spat. Won't be the first time, won't be the last.

WiresDreamDisasters · June 2020

Stratavarious said:

I was so enraged that I tore the Fulltone OCD from my pedalboard and crushed it to a pancake with my sledgehammer.

Take that Mr Fuller!

What had he said BTW?

Doesn't count unless you covered it in Maple syrup and sconned it down ya.

JezWynd · June 2020

OCD. Suddenly it all makes sense.

jfraze5150 · June 2020

Was reading online about Mike Fuller of Fulltone living up to his reputation and being a dick in regards comments about BLM protests and looting. I’ll not post a link. I think he deleted the Facebook comments anyway but there’s screen grabs going around.

I’m not gonna get triggered and burn my Fulltone stuff (I love the FD2 and Mini Deja-Vibe and have a Plimsoul in the post) It will make me think twice about buying new Fulltone stuff though.

Also, from discussions I’ve noticed there are very few pedal makers of colour. I don’t know of any in the U.K. but here’s a link to Native Audio - https://nativeaudio.us/ a Native American pedal builder. Some of these designs look cool af. Especially the Trem.

There’s also Dogman Devices. https://www.dogmandevices.com/ a black owned business from Minneapolis no less.

Just in case anyone was inclined to sell their Fulltone stuff and buy something from these guys.

Peace.

Philly_Q · June 2020

I always find it strange that Mike Fuller has a reputation for being so difficult, but Robin Trower only uses Fulltone pedals. Trower seems such a gentleman (and gentle man), it's hard to imagine them getting on. Of course I know neither of them.

bbill335 · June 2020

for chrissakes mike, your business is selling fuzzfaces and univibes. can't he even pretend to be the kind of guy hendrix would wanna hang out with?

tekbow · June 2020

Philly_Q said:

I always find it strange that Mike Fuller has a reputation for being so difficult, but Robin Trower only uses Fulltone pedals. Trower seems such a gentleman (and gentle man), it's hard to imagine them getting on. Of course I know neither of them.

I imagine being a big name who goes hand In hand with devices such as the vibe and getting your products into said big names rigs, buys a lot of politeness.

Fuller needs Trower more than the other way around.

AntonHunter · June 2020

Thanks for sharing! Disappointing from Fulltone

WiresDreamDisasters · June 2020

WiresDreamDisasters · June 2020

In case anyone was curious for actual details:
https://thefretboard.co.uk/discussion/182427/furore-at-fulltone#latest

jfraze5150 · June 2020

He’s since made a pretty sincere sounding apology on his Facebook but probably only because he realised he gone done fucked up.

Anyway, I’m not really wanting to be negative and boycott and sell my stuff (he’s been resting on his laurels for the past couple of decades I reckon but I love my FD2) so doing something positive and highlighting these pedal makers is better. I’m really into the NativeAudio stuff. Really cool art and the demos are really good!

jfraze5150 · June 2020

WiresDreamDisasters said:

In case anyone was curious for actual details:
https://thefretboard.co.uk/discussion/182427/furore-at-fulltone#latest

Ah cool. I didn’t see this.

althy · June 2020

He has a classic shop owner stand point. He hasn't said anything racist for what I have read.
He made the distinction between shoplifters/ looters and the protesters.. he just responded to an obvious troll for what I have read with a bit of wit

brucegill · June 2020

he comes across as a dick anyway, plenty of other pedal designers out there to choose from!

jfraze5150 · June 2020

althy said:

He has a classic shop owner stand point. He hasn't said anything racist for what I have read.
He made the distinction between shoplifters/ looters and the protesters.. he just responded to an obvious troll for what I have read with a bit of wit

I’m not claiming he said anything racist. He didn’t respond. He made a comment about the mayor and governor of wherever he’s from in Southern Cali being ‘pussys’ for allowing ‘4 nights of looting’. He only made the distinction after the fact. It’s not racist but from a wealthy and privileged white man, in the current climate, it’s tone deaf at best.

jfraze5150 · June 2020

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/guitar.com/news/industry-news/fulltone-backlash-comments-protests-mike-fuller/%3famp

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