Conor McGregor...the BIG fight

BigBearKris

RMJ said:

McGregor won't be able to resist a roundhouse or knee to the face

The only things in Conors favour are...

Mayweather will never have faced anything like it 
Mayweather will not have been able to prepare for his style in sparring 
There is no competitive footage of Conor in a boxing ring so Floyd's team will have to come up with multiple strategies and adapt on the fly
Floyd is old
Conor is physically bigger and has fought bigger fighters
Conor is fucking hard as nails
Conor is a mental warfare specialist. He will get in Mayweathers head if it is possible for anyone to do that

However Floyd will box McGregors dick off for 12 rounds. He doesn't have KO power at 154lb.

Hey Rich! Long time no see bud!

I agree with most of your points - also Conor never really had to deal with such a great technician as Mayweather.
My guess is - they will try to make it look like it's an actual challenge but any other result  than Floyd's win would be a shocker. 
Champ with no losses loses to MMA fighter? That would sell the tickets and PPV for the rematch like fresh bread. 
...so quite possible.


 duotone said:

Anyone going to be betting on this fight?

I have a few quid on KO from Conor by 4th and Mayweather to win by tko

Guitar_Slinger

Moltisanti said:

8oz gloves now....first 3-4 rounds will be interesting, if Conor tags him Floyd will feel it.

If it goes past 5 rounds Floyd will cruise to the end as he always does

Have any UK papers mentioned as 8oz (226.796gram) gloves?

It's all your fault, EU directive 71/354/EEC (European units of measurement)

Snap

guitarfishbay said:

bingefeller said:

Moltisanti said:

8oz gloves now....first 3-4 rounds will be interesting, if Conor tags him Floyd will feel it.

If it goes past 5 rounds Floyd will cruise to the end as he always does

I dont know anything about boxing really, but what does 8oz gloves have to do with it?  

Size and weight (and padding).

Smsller and lighter = less padding when they hit, less useful in defending.

Worth noting that Floyd likes 8oz anyway. This article states he's used them 45/49 fights.

http://www.skysports.com/mayweather-vs-mcgregor/news/35588/10992346/12

One of the main advantages of lighter gloves is that you can box faster. I train in 14oz gloves, it helps with conditioning and speed - when you drop to a lighter glove its almost like you have none on. A heavier glove gets harder to keep up, as in at face level for defence, so training with it does strengthen your arms too, and makes you work harder, increasing fitness.

A bigger heavier glove also offers (usually) more padding, so protects your hand more, and also offers a little degree of extra protection to your opponent. TBH though, the force with which a pro hits, golve weight won't offer much benefit to the opponent.

 A lot of the hand protection is in the wraps that you have under the glove. If you notice a fighters wraps after the fight, they are full of all sorts of padding and that. This is more important than the glove weight - the wraps also stop/reduce the bones of the hand spreading when you punch, and keep the thumb in place too, reducing risk of fracture. Any level of serious training without wraps really wrecks your hands.

Oh, to the OP, I think Macgregor will be whupped. Mayweather will likely string it out a bit to make him look rubbish. That is a risk though, cos one good punch from Macgregor could have Mayweather in trouble, but I don't think it will come to that.

I'll have a punt a 6 round KO or retirement, in Mayweather's favour. Either way, a stopppage. Mayweather is at the end of his career, Macgregor isn't: he doesn't want to be on the end of a bad beating that jeopardises his MMA career

Dopesick

I think I'll give this a watch - could be enormous fun.

I hope they go full on pantomime. It's kinda obvious the 'sweary lads on tour' stuff is all a giggle behind the scenes and hopefully the two parties can agree on some spots to really get the crowds worked up. Maybe they can both fall out the ring while having a cuddle or McGregor ties Mayweather's bootlaces together.

Should be a good laugh. Just hope the punters get their moneys worth (like fuck I'll be spending any money on it though).

stimpsonslostson

RMJ said:

McGregor won't be able to resist a roundhouse or knee to the face

The only things in Conors favour are...

Mayweather will never have faced anything like it 
Mayweather will not have been able to prepare for his style in sparring 
There is no competitive footage of Conor in a boxing ring so Floyd's team will have to come up with multiple strategies and adapt on the fly
Floyd is old
Conor is physically bigger and has fought bigger fighters
Conor is fucking hard as nails
Conor is a mental warfare specialist. He will get in Mayweathers head if it is possible for anyone to do that

However Floyd will box McGregors dick off for 12 rounds. He doesn't have KO power at 154lb.

I hope he does resist. It's widely reported that in the bout agreement is a clause that if Conor breaks the rules of boxing he'll sacrifice a large portion of his purse. 

bingefeller

To be honest this match makes me think of Ivan Drago (McGregor) vs Apollo Creed (Mayweather).

I could see Mayweather entering the ring to the tune of "Livin in America", with David Lee Roth and The Mambo Slammers as the band.  He would have all the fanfare, just like Apollo Creed did in Rocky IV.  

McGregor would enter to the tune of "When Irish Eyes Are Smiling", played by an elderly gent on a beat up acoustic guitar.  

Both fighters would be oiled up and ready to go.  The only difference would be is that Mayweather would do what Apollo Creed didn't do - win. 

lustycourtier

underdog said:

guitarfishbay said:

underdog said:

I think a fairly boring fight where Connor barely lands a glove but doesn't get knocked out either.

This is bordering on "sports entertainment" rather than sport. It's set up to get maximum exposure and sell as much pay per view as possible. There's nothing at stake really for either man, and all the bad mouthing in the press calls is just showmanship. 

The entertainment part is the whole reason these events happen. Entertainment = money 

But sports entertainment is what WWE wrestling is, essentially a pantomime, scripted sport.

Get in the ring, take a battering and then call it panto 

Snap

$78M apiece, don't think either of them are too fussed about the result really!

underdog

lustycourtier said:

underdog said:

guitarfishbay said:

underdog said:

I think a fairly boring fight where Connor barely lands a glove but doesn't get knocked out either.

This is bordering on "sports entertainment" rather than sport. It's set up to get maximum exposure and sell as much pay per view as possible. There's nothing at stake really for either man, and all the bad mouthing in the press calls is just showmanship. 

The entertainment part is the whole reason these events happen. Entertainment = money 

But sports entertainment is what WWE wrestling is, essentially a pantomime, scripted sport.

Get in the ring, take a battering and then call it panto 

But it is, the main points in the "fight" are scripted, the winner, the method of the win and the timing all pre arranged. It's a panto, a highly homo erotic panto at that.

holnrew

bingefeller said:

To be honest this match makes me think of Ivan Drago (McGregor) vs Apollo Creed (Mayweather).

I could see Mayweather entering the ring to the tune of "Livin in America", with David Lee Roth and The Mambo Slammers as the band.  He would have all the fanfare, just like Apollo Creed did in Rocky IV.  

McGregor would enter to the tune of "When Irish Eyes Are Smiling", played by an elderly gent on a beat up acoustic guitar.  

Both fighters would be oiled up and ready to go.  The only difference would be is that Mayweather would do what Apollo Creed didn't do - win. 

And not die

bingefeller

holnrew said:

bingefeller said:

To be honest this match makes me think of Ivan Drago (McGregor) vs Apollo Creed (Mayweather).

I could see Mayweather entering the ring to the tune of "Livin in America", with David Lee Roth and The Mambo Slammers as the band.  He would have all the fanfare, just like Apollo Creed did in Rocky IV.  

McGregor would enter to the tune of "When Irish Eyes Are Smiling", played by an elderly gent on a beat up acoustic guitar.  

Both fighters would be oiled up and ready to go.  The only difference would be is that Mayweather would do what Apollo Creed didn't do - win. 

And not die

Wis'd.  

Placidcasual79

duotone said:

Anyone going to be betting on this fight?

I am a boxing and betting fan and love to combine the two - but I don't see any value? Maybe round betting? You seen anything good?

You can knock either of these two - its a huge payday and they're both selling the fight. 

But as a sporting event is laughable - It will be a comfortable points win for Money. People say MrGregor is aggressive and a puncher. You think Shane Mosely, Arturo Gatti, peak De La Hoya, Canelo and Marquez weren't? With the exception of De La Hoya he didn't just beat these fighters, he schooled them. Fighters like Marquez and Gatti professionals from their mid teens, multi weight world champions and all left lost by Mayweather. I am sure these guys are better boxers than McGregor and I am willing to bet many are just as powerful. 

I doubt Mayweather will knock McGregor out - not really his thing - he'll hit and not get hit and make the truth obvious - that he is the vastly superior boxer. 

Golovkin Canelo will be a far better fight - I'd encourage people to use their money for that 

Caffeined

Joke of an event! Mayweather is a fantastically talented boxer, but a total and utter cunt in my eyes. Same for McGregor. Can't stand anyone that wonders around, banging on about how great they are and how much money they make.

Only way I see this going is Mayweather winning a UD, by a very wide margin. I'd be very happy if they had a draw. Mayweather loses his perfect record and McGregor doesn't win. Perfect! haha

RMJ

Placidcasual79 said:

duotone said:

Anyone going to be betting on this fight?

I am a boxing and betting fan and love to combine the two - but I don't see any value? Maybe round betting? You seen anything good?

You can knock either of these two - its a huge payday and they're both selling the fight. 

But as a sporting event is laughable - It will be a comfortable points win for Money. People say MrGregor is aggressive and a puncher. You think Shane Mosely, Arturo Gatti, peak De La Hoya, Canelo and Marquez weren't? With the exception of De La Hoya he didn't just beat these fighters, he schooled them. Fighters like Marquez and Gatti professionals from their mid teens, multi weight world champions and all left lost by Mayweather. I am sure these guys are better boxers than McGregor and I am willing to bet many are just as powerful. 

I doubt Mayweather will knock McGregor out - not really his thing - he'll hit and not get hit and make the truth obvious - that he is the vastly superior boxer. 

Golovkin Canelo will be a far better fight - I'd encourage people to use their money for that 

Mayweather arguably lost to Castillo and De La Hoya. Arguably. Both close fights. I'd argue DLH wasn't prime when they fought. He was prime against Chavez Sr, Trinidad, Moseley etc. Mayweather's record looks immense on paper.  But some on that list he didnt fight in their peak.  Moseley for example was past it but genuinely rocked Floyd.

I'm intrigued by this as a match up. Connor has been in and beaten people at 170lb+.  That's massive. He could tire Mayweather out in clinches and will throw hard shots from angles Floyd isn't used to.  Floyd is old and his reflexes aren't what they were. Connor is young and genuinely believes he will win. 

I can't see anything other than a Floyd win but I think it will be more competitive than people think.  For the level of investment made it HAS to be.

duotone

Placidcasual79 said:

duotone said:

Anyone going to be betting on this fight?

I am a boxing and betting fan and love to combine the two - but I don't see any value? Maybe round betting? You seen anything good?

Nope! I was just interested to see if anyone was putting their money where their mouth is.  I haven't checked the odds yet tbh, because the fight doesn't really interest me.

The Canelo V Golovkin is one that appeals though.

Placidcasual79

@duotone - I agree. I couldn't find any value in the odds. Though I enjoy watching Mayweather fight I dont think I'll even watch this. 

@RMJ - Yeah - I remember Mosley did catch him with a shot in the middle rounds didn't he. Closest Ive ever seen Mayweather to being hurt. And Mosley was definitely way past his best at that point. But Mayweather won that fight comfortably. Maybe your right about DLH as well, though he certainly wasn't far off his peak and would could argue that Mayweather hadn't full developed his style at that point. It was a close fight. But think of the Canelo fight - a big, powerful, young and ambitious fighter. And he was totally schooled. Juan Marquez (one of my personal favourites) - a pro since 15 - could box, fight, seen it all in the ring and he was boxed to a stand still in the later rounds. Just didn't know what to do. There is no way McGregor's boxing game is deeper than these guys. 

How do you see Canelo/GGG going?

grungebob

Gosh your cynical lot. 

Ive got £50 on a mcgregor win. 

Im no Conor fan boy and more than a casual mma fan but I believe he can do it. 

Ages back he said this this isn't a fight it's a boxing match, I'll never lose a fight to floyd but I'm ok losing a match. 
 

celentium

It's a farce, McGregor doesn't belong in the ring with him and Floyd doesn't belong in a cage.

Floyd doesn't have one punch power but it's enough to keep fighters honest. A sustained beating is more dangerous than a flash KO and it's what I think will happen. McGregor's corner will hopefully pull him out before it gets dangerous.

stimpsonslostson

The weight of the gloves thing is a worrying development. 
The commission prescribed the weight of glove according to weight class for fighter safety. They've reversed this ruling for this one fight. If someone does get hurt I hope they have a VERY good justification as the lawsuit could be huge. 

Moltisanti

and if you think 2oz doesn;t make any difference you are wrong, i use 14oz gloves for bag/tec work and they are tiny compared to 160z sparring gloves.

@stimpsonlostson is 100% correct, i've sparred with a former world champion K1 going at about 5% of what he's capable of and the speed and movement is ridiculous.

Conor's best chance is the time it will take Floyd to figure out his stance/movement/range and whatever 3 or 4 shots they have come up with in camp that they think will work. Mayweather is so good though that Conor might only get one chance with anything weird then Floyd will be able to react to it and evade the second time it come at him