FAIR WARNING: LOL/Wow/Wis changes

digitalscream

After much discussion over the years, and much ruckus regarding abuse of the reactions system, we've made the decision to de-anonymise the frets.

That means that, from this evening, everybody will be able to see who's hit LOL/Wow/Wis on any given comment. The hope is that this will stop the passive-aggressive LOL-stalking etc.

This will also apply historically, so if you think you've been LOL-stalking someone...you might want to go back and remove them if you want to keep your anonymity (good luck with that...).

Now, there is a really important bit of information here: anybody who starts arguments over post reactions in public will get a warning, and if they persist they'll be going in the cooler. If you have a problem with somebody who's reacted to one of your posts, you deal with it like a grown-up - either by PM, or not at all.

UPDATE: 'tis done. Just hover over the LOL/Wow/Wis counts (ie the actual numbers) to see who your fans are. This probably won't work on mobile devices due to limitations of the platform, but I may see what I can do about that in the future.

TTony

I imagine some people's fret counts are going to take a tumble as all those LOL-stalking frets are hurriedly removed by their stalkers

Dominic

This is going to be interesting
I think you've probably shot yourself in the foot with the well-intentioned transparency ;there will be a hundred on-going feuds albeit by pm traffic......and the retrospective facility will throw fuel on the fire of old wounds.....it makes you agent Provocateur
Would have been more sensible to simply omit the LOL /WIS/WOW altogether if a more harmonious panorama was the intention..........it means bugger-all and is actually quite childish in a "yeah ,what he said " kind of way.

goldtop

Meh. Bring back facepalms at the same time.

Nitefly

I think it would make more sense to just get rid of them.

Blaendulais

Isnt this just going to cause arguments? I've been LOL'd inappropriately.  Who cares?

Sassafras

Jock68 will finally have his revenge.

digitalscream

Dominic said:

This is going to be interesting
I think you've probably shot yourself in the foot with the well-intentioned transparency ;there will be a hundred on-going feuds albeit by pm traffic......and the retrospective facility will throw fuel on the fire of old wounds.....it makes you agent Provocateur
Would have been more sensible to simply omit the LOL /WIS/WOW altogether if a more harmonious panorama was the intention..........it means bugger-all and is actually quite childish in a "yeah ,what he said " kind of way.

1 - If people have a problem with each other, they can sort it out by PM. I really don't care what goes on by PM, unless it's illegal. If it spills out into the public areas, then there's a problem; the point of this is accountability.

2 - We won't be getting rid of the reactions, because they provide several useful functions for the forum as a whole, rather than in individual cases.

3 - (EDIT) It's not designed to make things more harmonious. The intent is to provide accountability, which appears to be the only thing that makes people act like adults. There may be a little more work for the mods in the short term, but long-term I'm 99% sure it's going to have the right effect while preserving the functionality.

goldtop said:

Meh. Bring back facepalms at the same time.

There is some discussion of this. That'd be...interesting

tone1

https://i.imgur.com/tPLo1D3.jpg

Dominic

digitalscream said:

Dominic said:

This is going to be interesting
I think you've probably shot yourself in the foot with the well-intentioned transparency ;there will be a hundred on-going feuds albeit by pm traffic......and the retrospective facility will throw fuel on the fire of old wounds.....it makes you agent Provocateur
Would have been more sensible to simply omit the LOL /WIS/WOW altogether if a more harmonious panorama was the intention..........it means bugger-all and is actually quite childish in a "yeah ,what he said " kind of way.

1 - If people have a problem with each other, they can sort it out by PM. I really don't care what goes on by PM, unless it's illegal. If it spills out into the public areas, then there's a problem; the point of this is accountability.

2 - We won't be getting rid of the reactions, because they provide several useful functions for the forum as a whole, rather than in individual cases.

goldtop said:

Meh. Bring back facepalms at the same time.

There is some discussion of this. That'd be...interesting

What are the useful functions outside of provocative entertainment ?
 ( which may well be a useful function in itself )
I'm genuinely curious

digitalscream

Dominic said:

digitalscream said:

Dominic said:

This is going to be interesting
I think you've probably shot yourself in the foot with the well-intentioned transparency ;there will be a hundred on-going feuds albeit by pm traffic......and the retrospective facility will throw fuel on the fire of old wounds.....it makes you agent Provocateur
Would have been more sensible to simply omit the LOL /WIS/WOW altogether if a more harmonious panorama was the intention..........it means bugger-all and is actually quite childish in a "yeah ,what he said " kind of way.

1 - If people have a problem with each other, they can sort it out by PM. I really don't care what goes on by PM, unless it's illegal. If it spills out into the public areas, then there's a problem; the point of this is accountability.

2 - We won't be getting rid of the reactions, because they provide several useful functions for the forum as a whole, rather than in individual cases.

goldtop said:

Meh. Bring back facepalms at the same time.

There is some discussion of this. That'd be...interesting

What are the useful functions outside of provocative entertainment ?
 ( which may well be a useful function in itself )
I'm genuinely curious

That's been discussed to death in previous threads (when we've made changes), but in short...it massively reduces the number of value-less "+1" comments, and keeping a high valuable-content proportion is pretty much our only business. There's more to it, obviously, in things like viewing someone's profile will give you a good idea as to whether they're generally a comedian or someone informative (as well as how much the membership as a whole values their contributions), and it's actually a better measure than the simple post count that's present on most forums. 

digitalscream

tone1 said:

https://i.imgur.com/tPLo1D3.jpg

Feeling a bit like that myself, actually

tone1

digitalscream said:

tone1 said:

https://i.imgur.com/tPLo1D3.jpg

Feeling a bit like that myself, actually

I can only imagine 

relic245

Dominic said:

What are the useful functions outside of provocative entertainment ?
 ( which may well be a useful function in itself )
I'm genuinely curious 

If used well then I would assume that it gives the poster feedback on what kind of comments people like and want more of, and perhaps what isn't so useful. 

Iamnobody

Now worries here - I don’t lol stalk anyone.

However I have clumsily hit the reactions when scrolling through posts before usually wows (I only use my phone and it’s easy to do) and I’m sure it’ll happen again. 

The system will highlight these accidents and possibly bring about unnecessary enquiries from people who are extra sensitive. 

tone1

relic245 said:

Dominic said:

What are the useful functions outside of provocative entertainment ?
 ( which may well be a useful function in itself )
I'm genuinely curious 

If used well then I would assume that it gives the poster feedback on what kind of comments people like and want more of, and perhaps what isn't so useful. 

Absolutely...If I post a pedal in Classifieds and I see lots of LoL’s I would assume I’ve overpriced it, and maybe people haven’t wanted to PM me or publicly air their views. 

beed84

I think it's a good idea. Lack of anonymity *should* promote a somewhat self-regulating forum. Hopefully.

JerkMoans

This is gonna be ACE! 

Lumped together with the boozers re-opening: The Admin/Mod Interventions thread’ll be on FIRE  

Dominic

I will be interested to see who has the same sense of humour as me and appreciates my jests

Kilgore

 On the whole I think it's a good idea but I can't see the point of doing it historically*. It would be better just to start with a clean slate.

* I don't Lol stalk so it won't affect me. 

Dominic

Just worth noting..........nobody has WISD or LOLLED a single response to the OP on this thread !