Line 6 Helix

gibsongretschfan

meltedbuzzbox said:

gibsongretschfan said:

Digital_Igloo said:

Jetfire said:

I want 2.5 now please 

Very soon.

“Looks like next week”

y u lie to us DI  

now I can’t become a famous rockstar over the weekend because I won’t have a Friedman dropping in hi res verb

better to wait for it to be right :-)

I'm looking forward to it

To be honest I’m just yanking his chain, I don’t really have any complaints as is!

Cabicular

Digital_Igloo said:

Dom and QA team found a couple blocker bugs this morning. Next week; sorry, guys.

I appreciate the candid approach 
thanks 

digitalscream

@Digital_Igloo - any news on how DSP-intensive the Legacy effects are compared with the core HX effects? For those of us butting up against DSP limits on a couple of patches, these might provide a nice way to get around the issue

welshboyo

I love the way some of the guys on the Line 6 forum are digging into @Digital_Igloo and his guys for using the word "soon" 

FFS, get a grip of yourselves, its a free firmware update, have a little thought for the small bunch of guys working their arses off to get this stuff out to a global audience....

rossyamaha

welshboyo said:

I love the way some of the guys on the Line 6 forum are digging into @Digital_Igloo and his guys for using the word "soon" 

FFS, get a grip of yourselves, its a free firmware update, have a little thought for the small bunch of guys working their arses off to get this stuff out to a global audience....

It's happened for ever. When I was at Line 6 back in the day launching Vetta, the product ended up being forced into market by impatient customers. It wasn't ready and people moaned. You kind of can't win. I'd rather wait excitedly and there not be any issues. 

welshboyo

rossyamaha said:

welshboyo said:

I love the way some of the guys on the Line 6 forum are digging into @Digital_Igloo and his guys for using the word "soon" 

FFS, get a grip of yourselves, its a free firmware update, have a little thought for the small bunch of guys working their arses off to get this stuff out to a global audience....

It's happened for ever. When I was at Line 6 back in the day launching Vetta, the product ended up being forced into market by impatient customers. It wasn't ready and people moaned. You kind of can't win. I'd rather wait excitedly and there not be any issues. 

I love the way that all of a sudden everyone's a software developer of some kind...

I know Eric and guys are probably immune to all of the "are we there yets?" coming through from the impatient children but fark me it must be tiring....

guitarfishbay

welshboyo said:

I love the way some of the guys on the Line 6 forum are digging into @Digital_Igloo and his guys for using the word "soon" 

FFS, get a grip of yourselves, its a free firmware update, have a little thought for the small bunch of guys working their arses off to get this stuff out to a global audience....

Soon is basically a running joke on the Fractal forums.  It's pretty much Cliff's stock response to any question on timescale so there's not much point in asking, it'll be ready when it's ready.

I mean realistically most people aren't idiots and know for a company to get stuff right it takes time.  It's free to the end user either way, presumably they bought their Helix unit/plugin for what it already did not what it might do.

Spent a bunch of time enjoying a tiny amount of B7KU grit blended into the Agua 51 when playing bass last night through Native.  Been using the delays a bunch too, looking forward to the update.

dindude

You digital converts kill me with your impatience. Don't you know that back in the analogue world nothing is worth shit without an 18 month wait.

sgosden

welshboyo said:

I love the way some of the guys on the Line 6 forum are digging into @Digital_Igloo and his guys for using the word "soon" 

FFS, get a grip of yourselves, its a free firmware update, have a little thought for the small bunch of guys working their arses off to get this stuff out to a global audience....

bet they found where the parents hid their Christmas present and opened them early too.

Digital_Igloo

digitalscream said:

@Digital_Igloo - any news on how DSP-intensive the Legacy effects are compared with the core HX effects? For those of us butting up against DSP limits on a couple of patches, these might provide a nice way to get around the issue

It depends on the model, but they should be noticeably less DSP-intensive. And just in case you missed it, note that Path 2 is a completely different DSP so if all your blocks are on Path 1, you're only using one of Helix's two SHARCs.

Digital_Igloo

rossyamaha said:
It's happened for ever. When I was at Line 6 back in the day launching Vetta, the product ended up being forced into market by impatient customers. It wasn't ready and people moaned. You kind of can't win. I'd rather wait excitedly and there not be any issues. 

Yep. 2.50 was finished over a week ago so "soon" is wholly appropriate; we're just squashing the last of a couple blocker bugs. The problem is if one bug rears its ugly head at the 11th hour, the QA team often has to go though the entire battery of tests once the bug is fixed, just to confirm the fix didn't break something else. So a single tiny bug fix can sometimes push a release back by a week or more.

digitalscream

Digital_Igloo said:

digitalscream said:

@Digital_Igloo - any news on how DSP-intensive the Legacy effects are compared with the core HX effects? For those of us butting up against DSP limits on a couple of patches, these might provide a nice way to get around the issue

It depends on the model, but they should be noticeably less DSP-intensive. And just in case you missed it, note that Path 2 is a completely different DSP so if all your blocks are on Path 1, you're only using one of Helix's two SHARCs.

Cool - and yeah, I'm fairly evenly-split between the paths. Trouble is, I like my delays and reverbs after the amps, which naturally puts most of them in path 2 (with one amp on each path), so #2 is a little congested.

It's not really a massive problem, mind.

RandallFlagg

A quick question on the options for connecting Helix to computer for playback and recording into a DAW. What's your preference and why?

1/4 line outs into audio interface?
USB direct to computer?
S/PDIFinto audio interface?

Cabicular

USB all the way

gibsongretschfan

Cabicular said:

USB all the way

Yes

meltedbuzzbox

I use 1/4 line out in stereo into my saffire pro.
It's just how I like to roll for various reasons

RandallFlagg

Cabicular said:

USB all the way

OK, my iMac is currently connected by firewire to a Focusrite Saffire audio interface with monitors connected. If I connect Helix direct to Mac via USB and set the Mac input to Helix and output to Saffire I can see movement on the Mac input meters but hear no sound output. How do I pass audio through this setup from Helix to Mac to Saffire?

gibsongretschfan

RandallFlagg said:

Cabicular said:

USB all the way

OK, my iMac is currently connected by firewire to a Focusrite Saffire audio interface with monitors connected. If I connect Helix direct to Mac via USB and set the Mac input to Helix and output to Saffire I can see movement on the Mac input meters but hear no sound output. How do I pass audio through this setup from Helix to Mac to Saffire?

You need to make an aggregate device (I think!)

https://support.apple.com/en-gb/HT202000

RandallFlagg

gibsongretschfan said:

RandallFlagg said:

Cabicular said:

USB all the way

OK, my iMac is currently connected by firewire to a Focusrite Saffire audio interface with monitors connected. If I connect Helix direct to Mac via USB and set the Mac input to Helix and output to Saffire I can see movement on the Mac input meters but hear no sound output. How do I pass audio through this setup from Helix to Mac to Saffire?

You need to make an aggregate device (I think!)

https://support.apple.com/en-gb/HT202000

Blimey that looks complicated...I want to be able to use the Helix connected to Mac by USB and output via Focusrite to monitors without opening Logic, will that work?

meltedbuzzbox

Just plug it into your saffire for now?