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I’ve accepted that it’s a fact of life but I’m just too naive and think that everyone’s into guitars because they’re into ‘guitars’ not profit..
I don’t have an Issues with bona fide retailers/dealers. That’s because their up front about it..
Si
Whether they are a dealer or not - If you are happy to sell so be it.
Would you underwrite them if they lose £200 ?
Pay your money and take your choice.
If it was such a certain bargain you would have been flooded with buyers and would have sold it for the best price -if this chap was the only buyer then you still sold it at the best price !
If you genuinely had a few buyers and sold it considerably cheaper to somebody because they gave you a convincing sob story and you were kind then they are a shitty person but ultimately if their funds cleared and they didn't give you forged cash then you did a deal and shouldn't be "looking over the fence " as they say in the car dealing business.
A few hundred quid or less by the time he has managed to sell is neither here nor there....dinner for 4 in crappy old Pizza Express is going to cost you £85 these days .
Is this where the saying, Flipping Hell comes from.......?
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For me, the issue is about transparency - in my case, I did have other people interested, but the chap seemed to be an enthusiast. I did ask if he was a dealer, but only out of interest, as I'd clocked his name before, selling some great guitars that were right up my street. The guitar had been on sale for a day and I thought he was jumping at the chance to buy this particular model for himself. I knew it was a bloody good price, but I didn't mind, as I thought it was going to a good home, When it comes to it, it doesn't really matter I suppose, and if someone wants to do that for the sake of a couple of hundred quid or so, it's not going to stop my world from turning. I have no problem with people making a profit in general though - I should emphasise that.
Edit - disregard that, on my fourth Guinness, forgot what we were talking about.
Yes i offered you a cash price privately which you accepted straight away and yes i bought it for my own use and not to sell when i got it home and played through my amp it did not sound too great compared to my keepers so i decided to punt it on 5 days later and i did not receive any messages from you asking why i had put of for sale as i would have told you i had the hots for another gretsch i had seen!
Did i drive 250 miles to come get it that day with cold hard cash yes, i spent some time round yours and we had a great chat about gear and i put it on the bay factoring ebay fees paypal fees and shipping costs etc, i certainly did not make £350 like you are making out i think it was more £60 after everything.
I think a few people on here will attest that i am certainly not a dealer and an absolute gear head who loses more money on gear than anyone on this forum,
I am the idiot that goes and buys nearly everything new from a shop then passes on the savings to fellow fretboarders on here!
A few points to note first though , You dont post which is fine and you dont take paypal which is fine, that limits it selling massively ,however i dont want to sit on gear for months on end if its not my thing ,im prepared to take the risk on ebay for a quick turnaround risking the usual paypal hurdles, buyers remorse,not as described because they have changed their mind and guitar getting damaged or lost ,
im not a flipper/trader like some guys out there and i have sold to a few over the years, if i get what i want then im not fussed if dealers like Ric henry or Craig greenwood puts it up for a grand more than i got, which has happened a few times fair play to them if they get it, they have the exposure and stores and the contacts
If you no longer want to sell me a guitar in future especially that es295 then thats a shame you seemed a good guy!
Peace out
Lee
I sent a text, to see if there was a problem (and if you say that you didn't receive it, then I fully accept that) - the fact that it was on sale at £350 more was actually pointed out to me by the guy that came to buy the ES-150, and fell in love with the ES-295 (which I still have, because it's - as you pointed out - a good one!). When I didn't receive a reply, you can understand that I felt it may have been flipped, and you will also remember me asking if you were a dealer, out of interest rather than anything else, as I'd seen some great guitars advertised by you.
I absolutely agree that I was fine with the offer (I don't think that I've stated differently in fairness) and - given your musical tastes - was pleased that it was going to a good home. Kenny liked you, as well, and he's a good judge of character, although (in absolute honesty) anyone that will give him a biscuit is OK!
I hope you'll appreciate my reasoning behind my assumptions, given the above, and that I didn't want to name names (or even make of guitar, as that might have narrowed it down!) - I also thought that you were sound, as mentioned above, so was disappointed at the above.
I'm sure you'll understand my reasoning - particularly as the resale hit the cut-off for the £1 offer on eBay fees - for feeling that 'sour taste', because we got on well, and I thought I'd sold it to someone that wanted it. I fully accept that you did, though, as you've just said that you did. Anyway, you didn't have a coffee, so it could have been worse. ;-)
I do try and be a good guy, and wouldn't want to do anyone an injustice, so perhaps we can do a virtual handshake and feel free to buy anything else! :-)
Not the ES-295 though.....
'spose I ought to keep an eye on this one too...if only because it challenges assumptions and I'm curious as to the community's feeling on the subject from here on out...
Of course, it applies (perhaps even more so) to the seller as well. In an ideal world, everyone would just tell it like it is, but it isn't an ideal world, so perhaps some of us (including me) just need to grow a thicker skin. Ah, sod it, I'll still get the coffee on and give you biscuits to feed my dog. :-)