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I'm angry at my Neighbour so I'm going to bash up my Auntie / scratch my Dad's car
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I don't believe that Racism is "Rife" in the UK . Of course ,there are Racists in the UK and Tribalism is a Human Science tenet and always will be in any Society . However I would go so far as to say that Britain is one of the most integrated and Tolerant Societies in the World alongside Brazil and Holland .
If you look at Society as a whole I don't think you will see "rife" racism. The odd Racist maybe .
Younger generations don't even notice colour / sexuality as it has been very sanitised and they have evolved through integration and education to a completely different mindset .
There is a huge amount of mixed race marriage /partnership ,nobody looks twice at mixed couples .
Things have changed massively in 50 years ....Enoch Powell would be very surprised to see that half the Close Cabinet are Indian origin .I'm quite old and can remember seeing Houses with TO LET signs in the window of London Suburbs like Wood Green with NO JEWS NO BLACKS NO IRISH proudly and unabashedly written beneath in bold letters .
The notion that insurrection is 'sticking it to the man' is rarely born out in these circumstances.
The rioting isn't in Beverley Hills, it's in poorer communities that can ill afford the destruction to infrastructure or to community harmony. Smashing a McDonalds up achieves nothing other than to put the locals that work there out of a job which is an own goal. Smashing the small grocers shop up likely destroys a local families business and their lives which is as much of an own goal as you can get. It's totally understandable though - in the heat of the moment, when there seems to be little chance of recourse, people seem to want to smash things up... I mean, a cop killed a man in broad daylight, it would seem perfectly plausible that as a reaction to throw a brick... maybe.
I wasn't aware of the context of MLK's “language of the unheard” speech that is often quote. That's really interesting. I read MLK's nephew (I think it was a nephew) misquoting that speech.
I don't agree with that taking a knee achieves nothing. It's achieved a lot and is an incredibly powerful image of peaceful dissent. But what are people to do when it 'appears' to achieve nothing? I can wholly understand these riots and the idea that - if you have nothing - you've got nothing to lose but unfortunately that is patently untrue. The same people will be losing even more rights and more freedoms with Trump in power.
There's nothing new about Trump, he's just more blatant in his desire to divide and conquer and these riots may just prove to galvanise Trump's base.
When was the last time you had your "whiteness" used as a reason to be stopped by the authorities, questioned, harassed and maybe roughed up a little?
I am betting on 'never'.
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The issue in the US is racism + power, over many generations.
Of course I am against racism in all its forms.
What is happening in the states is systemic.
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There was a Twitter video, reposted here in another thread before "this" all kicked off, of a youngish white woman in a NY park (IIRC) calling the police because an "African American" (her words) was videoing her allowing her dog to break the park rules.
He wasn't threatening her in any way, just videoing her breaking the law.
She called the police.
That - to my mind - exhibits the endemic racism in the US and shows how deep-rooted and automatic it is. Sorting that out will be a lot more difficult than running a few awareness courses.
Racism and racial prejudice unfortunately goes both ways.
Look at what is going on in the USA in the last 7 days and tell me you have not observed racism and violence towards white Americans.
Racism does go both ways without a doubt, but until you can honestly tell yourself that you would be perfectly fine being a different colour and your life would be no different, something needs to be done. But virtue signalling about it only going one way is part of the problem.
I think the problem isn't "black guy dies in custody", it should be the issue of lack of opportunities and fairness. Sorting out the the reasons for that though is going to be very tough (how much is skin colour, how much is background)?
But I take your point.
I've said in several other places in the thread something to the effect of it is the cumulative effect of hounding of black people (often men) by the Police- it isn't racism by itself, it is racism + power.
I saw it when I lived there, the evidence shows that they are disproportionately stopped by the Police.
Capo has tried to use a false equivalence argument stating that racism goes both ways.
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Yeah. The problem is that so many poor people in the US are black. Or black people are poor. So how do you address the root of the issue in the fairest way? Special treatment for someone based on skin colour cannot be the fairest solution, but it could be the only solution at present if that means dragging black people out of the poorest end of the spectrum until there is a fairer distribution? Maybe discounted education? Maybe lower tax rates?
Then perhaps, after maybe a generation, you will get a better idea of what is still racism, and what is just lack of opportunity offered by background. Probably significantly problems with both, but hopefully things keep moving (quickly) in the right direction.