Neural Quad Core thing demo

digitalscream

PC_Dave said:

WiresDreamDisasters said:

Also I think it's mildly fucked up that the Youtubers are getting units, when all the people who preordered ages ago are still waiting, and have been left with very little news.

Yeah, I guess it's the way of the "Influencer" - more important to the company as they get free marketing from it.

HahAHahHAhAHAHhAHHaHAHHAhAhAHA

I very much doubt it's free

WiresDreamDisasters

Well it'll be the cost of the unit at the very least I suppose. Which will probably be what? 30% of retail cost??

fretmeister

Tom Quayle

fretmeister

Erik Arko's bass demo

PC_Dave

digitalscream said:

PC_Dave said:

WiresDreamDisasters said:

Also I think it's mildly fucked up that the Youtubers are getting units, when all the people who preordered ages ago are still waiting, and have been left with very little news.

Yeah, I guess it's the way of the "Influencer" - more important to the company as they get free marketing from it.

HahAHahHAhAHAHhAHHaHAHHAhAhAHA

I very much doubt it's free

You know what I mean, don't be so condescending. Rabea's the one that has to spend the time making the video, editing it, getting it approved and publishing it. Neural just sit back and let him and the others on Social Media do the work for them.

fretmeister

Pete Thorn's is timed to start at 6pm UK time

digitalscream

PC_Dave said:

digitalscream said:

PC_Dave said:

WiresDreamDisasters said:

Also I think it's mildly fucked up that the Youtubers are getting units, when all the people who preordered ages ago are still waiting, and have been left with very little news.

Yeah, I guess it's the way of the "Influencer" - more important to the company as they get free marketing from it.

HahAHahHAhAHAHhAHHaHAHHAhAhAHA

I very much doubt it's free

You know what I mean, don't be so condescending. Rabea's the one that has to spend the time making the video, editing it, getting it approved and publishing it. Neural just sit back and let him and the others on Social Media do the work for them.

Wasn't intended to be condescending. I guess I was obliquely referencing the fact that, essentially, influencers account for the majority of Neural's marketing budget. So, to be more accurate with my comment...it's not free marketing, it's exactly the marketing that Neural are paying for.

That's why you don't see reviews on channels like Bea's. He doesn't review stuff, he demos it, and I'd guess that's how he makes a significant chunk of his income.

Jetfire

digitalscream said:

PC_Dave said:

digitalscream said:

PC_Dave said:

WiresDreamDisasters said:

Also I think it's mildly fucked up that the Youtubers are getting units, when all the people who preordered ages ago are still waiting, and have been left with very little news.

Yeah, I guess it's the way of the "Influencer" - more important to the company as they get free marketing from it.

HahAHahHAhAHAHhAHHaHAHHAhAhAHA

I very much doubt it's free

You know what I mean, don't be so condescending. Rabea's the one that has to spend the time making the video, editing it, getting it approved and publishing it. Neural just sit back and let him and the others on Social Media do the work for them.

Wasn't intended to be condescending. I guess I was obliquely referencing the fact that, essentially, influencers account for the majority of Neural's marketing budget. So, to be more accurate with my comment...it's not free marketing, it's exactly the marketing that Neural are paying for.

That's why you don't see reviews on channels like Bea's. He doesn't review stuff, he demos it, and I'd guess that's how he makes a significant chunk of his income.

Does anyone review gear any more?

JohnCordy

@Jetfire I do...but it's not really worth it if you want to have a good relationship with all of the companies?

fretmeister

PC_Dave said:

digitalscream said:

PC_Dave said:

WiresDreamDisasters said:

Also I think it's mildly fucked up that the Youtubers are getting units, when all the people who preordered ages ago are still waiting, and have been left with very little news.

Yeah, I guess it's the way of the "Influencer" - more important to the company as they get free marketing from it.

HahAHahHAhAHAHhAHHaHAHHAhAhAHA

I very much doubt it's free

You know what I mean, don't be so condescending. Rabea's the one that has to spend the time making the video, editing it, getting it approved and publishing it. Neural just sit back and let him and the others on Social Media do the work for them.

How is that different to any other advertising agency?

PC_Dave

fretmeister said:

PC_Dave said:

digitalscream said:

PC_Dave said:

WiresDreamDisasters said:

Also I think it's mildly fucked up that the Youtubers are getting units, when all the people who preordered ages ago are still waiting, and have been left with very little news.

Yeah, I guess it's the way of the "Influencer" - more important to the company as they get free marketing from it.

HahAHahHAhAHAHhAHHaHAHHAhAhAHA

I very much doubt it's free

You know what I mean, don't be so condescending. Rabea's the one that has to spend the time making the video, editing it, getting it approved and publishing it. Neural just sit back and let him and the others on Social Media do the work for them.

How is that different to any other advertising agency?

It's a lot cheaper, guaranteed target audience etc etc  Do you know many advertising agencies that play guitar?

fretmeister

PC_Dave said:

fretmeister said:

PC_Dave said:

digitalscream said:

PC_Dave said:

WiresDreamDisasters said:

Also I think it's mildly fucked up that the Youtubers are getting units, when all the people who preordered ages ago are still waiting, and have been left with very little news.

Yeah, I guess it's the way of the "Influencer" - more important to the company as they get free marketing from it.

HahAHahHAhAHAHhAHHaHAHHAhAhAHA

I very much doubt it's free

You know what I mean, don't be so condescending. Rabea's the one that has to spend the time making the video, editing it, getting it approved and publishing it. Neural just sit back and let him and the others on Social Media do the work for them.

How is that different to any other advertising agency?

It's a lot cheaper, guaranteed target audience etc etc  Do you know many advertising agencies that play guitar?

Agencies get paid to properly target the right audience. That is the entire point of their existence.
I don't know any advertising agencies that drive F1 cars but the agencies manage to advertise the sport anyway.

PC_Dave

fretmeister said:

PC_Dave said:

fretmeister said:

PC_Dave said:

digitalscream said:

PC_Dave said:

WiresDreamDisasters said:

Also I think it's mildly fucked up that the Youtubers are getting units, when all the people who preordered ages ago are still waiting, and have been left with very little news.

Yeah, I guess it's the way of the "Influencer" - more important to the company as they get free marketing from it.

HahAHahHAhAHAHhAHHaHAHHAhAhAHA

I very much doubt it's free

You know what I mean, don't be so condescending. Rabea's the one that has to spend the time making the video, editing it, getting it approved and publishing it. Neural just sit back and let him and the others on Social Media do the work for them.

How is that different to any other advertising agency?

It's a lot cheaper, guaranteed target audience etc etc  Do you know many advertising agencies that play guitar?

Agencies get paid to properly target the right audience. That is the entire point of their existence.
I don't know any advertising agencies that drive F1 cars but the agencies manage to advertise the sport anyway.

Nevermind.... You're right as always

digitalscream

Jetfire said:

Does anyone review gear any more?

No, because that's much less valuable to the manufacturer than a demo, unless they can guarantee the outcome of the review, which is almost impossible in today's YouTube climate; YouTubers are far more accountable to their audience nowadays compared with magazines and the like.

Jetfire

digitalscream said:

Jetfire said:

Does anyone review gear any more?

No, because that's much less valuable to the manufacturer than a demo, unless they can guarantee the outcome of the review, which is almost impossible in today's YouTube climate; YouTubers are far more accountable to their audience nowadays compared with magazines and the like.

Yup, it's left for the audience to make thier minds up. I guess it's a shame because shit products won't get any videos etc made meaning its conspicuous by its absence...

Or some great gear won't get reviewed because reasons. 

fretmeister

Jetfire said:

digitalscream said:

Jetfire said:

Does anyone review gear any more?

No, because that's much less valuable to the manufacturer than a demo, unless they can guarantee the outcome of the review, which is almost impossible in today's YouTube climate; YouTubers are far more accountable to their audience nowadays compared with magazines and the like.

Yup, it's left for the audience to make thier minds up. I guess it's a shame because shit products won't get any videos etc made meaning its conspicuous by its absence...

Or some great gear won't get reviewed because reasons. 

The BassTheWorld youtube channel won't do Mark Bass products.
No idea why - it's not a quality issue, but apparently there was something that happened several years ago.

Jetfire

So just watched Rabeas video and it does sound nice and its a smaller footprint ... but not sure if its all that an a bag of chips. It can do the tone/note  generation thing which he loves but the Helix can do that too.

One thing that would annoy me is that order to see what setting a particular block has, you have to click on it for another window to pop open. So, say you're setting up a snapshot..sorry.. scene.. and you want to flick back and forth to get a level for your gain on your tube screamer. With the helix, you select the block and then flick between the snapshots and the gain changes.  With the NQC, if Im right, you select your scene, select the pedal, set your drive, press done, select the other scene, select that block and then open the settings and press done when finished?  

Jetfire

Scrap that, Tom's video explains it better

WiresDreamDisasters

Watching some of the videos, I'm starting to warm to it.

For me, it will live and die on how well it nerdural captures real rigs.

guitarmangler

That Tom Quayle video has piqued my interest. To have a device that can capture the soul of my old Yamaha amp and a couple of my pedals, and have effects and ( potentially ) have the easy to edit on screen as a helix looks good.