Murphy Labs finish defects

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So threads appearing on other forums, looks like there’s a substantial issue with the finishing on some of the Gibson Murphy Labs with paint flaking:

https://www.mylespaul.com/threads/murphy-lab-finish-falling-off.456499/

seen someone suggest it could be a quarter of all the ML guitars, someone say it was just cherry ones and due to pore filler, another saying the different nitro had issue and going to be fixed. Messy.

Any way, heads up just in case anyone does have an instrument from this line. I do remember finishes aren’t generally covered by the Gibson warranty but I don’t think it’ll be a good look if they just shrug it off either.
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  • WezVWezV Frets: 16916
    Looks like they are rushing the new checking process.

    Queue lots of posts about paying extra for flaking examples ;)
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  • BrizeBrize Frets: 5640
    Time was that a Murphy-aged Historic was a genuine rarity. When these new 'Murphy Lab' guitars dropped, the sheer number of them devalued the concept for me.

    One thing's for sure: the replacement of Henry J hasn't been a magic bullet for Gibson.
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  • DeadmanDeadman Frets: 3957
    Too much lacquer too soon by the looks of it. Rushed.
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  • monquixotemonquixote Frets: 17855
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    I just can't be arsed with Gibson.

    I hear far too many stories like that to touch one with a big stick.
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  • Musicman20Musicman20 Frets: 2348
    Absolute joke. Funny that Fender made decent Road Worn guitars under £1k and skipped these issues. 
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  • TrentGuitarsTrentGuitars Frets: 1732
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    Play authentic 
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  • ICBMICBM Frets: 72949
    edited June 2021
    You pay thousands of dollars extra for a guitar to look like it's sixty years old and the finish is falling off. Then it does!

    Excuse me while I roll around on the floor laughing...

    (I see Wez got there first :).)

    "Take these three items, some WD-40, a vise grip, and a roll of duct tape. Any man worth his salt can fix almost any problem with this stuff alone." - Walt Kowalski

    "Only two things are infinite - the universe, and human stupidity. And I'm not sure about the universe." - Albert Einstein

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  • WhitecatWhitecat Frets: 5485
    Copying PRS now, sigh. We’ve come full circle. 
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  • Absolute joke. Funny that Fender made decent Road Worn guitars under £1k and skipped these issues. 
    They’re a bit too stark to me, but the journeyman relics at custom shop would be a fair argument in addition to various aftermarket finishers (including some on this forum)
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  • WezVWezV Frets: 16916
    I just got mine.




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  • JezWyndJezWynd Frets: 6154
    ICBM said:
    You pay thousands of dollars extra for a guitar to look like it's sixty years old and the finish is falling off. Then it does!

    Excuse me while I roll around on the floor laughing...

    (I see Wez got there first :).)
    At least they have the comfort of knowing that it was Master Builders wot done it.
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  • LebarqueLebarque Frets: 3954
    edited June 2021
    Mine's flaking a bit, but it sounds so good with the free pack of strings I managed to sweeten the deal with. Best £8k I've ever spent.
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  • SeziertischSeziertisch Frets: 1369
    Lebarque said:
    Mine's flaking a bit, but it sounds so good with the free pack of strings I managed to sweeten the deal with. Best £8k I've ever spent 
    The free pack of strings I got with mine came with an extra high e string. Score!
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  • guitars4youguitars4you Frets: 14677
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    Brize said:
    Time was that a Murphy-aged Historic was a genuine rarity. When these new 'Murphy Lab' guitars dropped, the sheer number of them devalued the concept for me.

    One thing's for sure: the replacement of Henry J hasn't been a magic bullet for Gibson.
    That is my thought - Far less of an exclusive item than I'd have expected - Look on the appropriate UK sites and you might expect to see a few very tasty examples, but such sites are flooded with them - And as you say 10/20 years ago a TM LP was quite rare and if you had 1 or 2 in stock it was 'major event' - Similar story with Master Built Fenders say 10/15 years ago, especially Todd Krauss and J Cruz who had 2/3 year delivery dates on the guitars 

    Ref the new regime under JC - I think they have steadied the ship and moved something arounds - No silly dumping of last years model before the year is up - No Amazon - And a few nice models in the catalogue - I think there has been some improvements overall 
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  • LebarqueLebarque Frets: 3954
    If I'd paid £8k for a guitar and the finish started falling off, I'd be telling Mark Agnesi to stick it in his garage.
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  • Musicman20Musicman20 Frets: 2348
    Absolutely agree on the rarity factor. There are loads for sale now. 
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  • Rob1742Rob1742 Frets: 1062
    My worry would be if I had one and the finish wasn’t flaking off. I doubt they would take it back as there isn’t any fault. Yet there you have a ticking time bomb on your hands 
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  • euaneuan Frets: 1603
    There is a guy in that thread that had bought 16 ML guitars. Oooft.
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  • Rob1742 said:
    My worry would be if I had one and the finish wasn’t flaking off. I doubt they would take it back as there isn’t any fault. Yet there you have a ticking time bomb on your hands 
    Or the next person along does if you ever sell it used and there's the worry that Gibson will hide behind the warranty only being good to original buyer etc.
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  • TTBZTTBZ Frets: 2941
    Isn't this the whole point of a Murphy Labs Gibson?
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